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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, I think it's totally justified to use violence on a suicidal person who is actively attempting to kill themselves so long as the violence is done specifically to stop them from doing that.

Of course this is a very tricky situation and shit can go south like that.

Police are violence? Come off it. Gonna depend entirely on how shit your police are. But you can't expect families to sit around and deal with a suicidal person. They need to be institutionalized so they can't harm themselves and can't harm others.

But again depends entirely on what we are talking about. "I feel like killing myself because I'm sad" isn't exactly the same thing as "I'm about to jump off the roof".

Being trans is the reason why they are suicidal, some people think it's the solution to help them but it can only make things worse. Puts even more tension on their social situations and frankly, if they really truly believe they are the opposite sex and that's the only thing that can make them happy, then they believe that the only thing that can make them happy is something which is unachievable, meaning happiness is unachievable, meaning it's a suicidal ideology from the start.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, I think it's totally justified to use violence on a suicidal person who is actively attempting to kill themselves so long as the violence is done specifically to stop them from doing that.

Wow, creepy.

Police are violence? Come off it. Gonna depend entirely on how shit your police are.

Fair point I guess. In some places this might not be a problem. Police, and also mental health "services", are indeed pretty shit where I live.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Police can be shit and it's a fair point if you decide not to call them on the circumstances..But to say police = violence is  , pardon the stupid idiot bullshit, woke bullshit. Police can be helpful if you live in a civilized realm.

Using violence in my mind equals, tackling the person about to jump off the building/ shoot themselves in order.to prevent them to hurt themselves. I'm not in favor of violence for violences sake, but you can't standby and do nothing when someone is suicidal or franky you aren't much better than a murderer in my opinion. Slightly better, but not by much

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. I believe the opposite. I don't think keeping someone alive be force is much better than making them dead be force.