What the fuck is a guy nod? Asking for a guy (me).

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[–]LtGreenCo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

No idea how you arrived at that conclusion from what I wrote.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I do, he's schizophrenic. It's sad. He's been doing his impersonation of the Socratic method, maybe you noticed everything is in the form of a question.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Didn't we go on to have an entire conversation? Didn't you choose to add this gaslighting remark in the middle of it?

Couldn't you probably notice that I left him alone eventually because he proved himself to be a decent person, unlike yourself?

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Didn't we go on to have an entire conversation?

I dunno dude, I didn't read it, just concerned you're gonna wear everyone out with your Socratic bullshit like you did in chat.

Couldn't you probably notice that I left him alone eventually because he proved himself to be a decent person, unlike yourself?

I don't know what the fuck I ever did to you. I just get random accusations from you.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know what the fuck I ever did to you. I just get random accusations from you.

Didn't I clear your name with regards to the Jason scandal? Aren't you kind of strawmanning my position on you?

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Weren't you just calling me a fed again the other day? I don't know which imaginary scandals I have cleared of or not.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Aren't I, right here and now, clearing your name?

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I thought you were just trying to hurt my brain.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Wouldn't youth HRT treatment result in better outcomes much more indistinguishable from these cherry-picked examples of transgender individuals?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Nice use of the word “youth” to obfuscate the true word - children.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Shouldn't children be afforded all the freedoms of liberalism granted their parents' prior approval?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Shouldn't children be afforded all the freedoms of liberalism granted their parents' prior approval?

That’s some paedo logic right there. Conveniently ignoring the fact that children are malleable, approval seeking and have no sense for permanence when it comes to choices they make.

We rightfully do not allow a child to get a tattoo, even with parental permission, so why should we agree for them to be castrated/spayed and pumped full of experimental hormones in service to a bankrupt ideology?

Hey Groomer, leave them kids alone!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Can't children just give themselves stick and poke homemade tattoos? Doesn't it really all just boil down to freedom to make medical decisions in the privacy of one's own home?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You’re Keffals and I claim my £5.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you say "yutes?"

[–]LtGreenCo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

No form of transgenderism is a good outcome. They are all bad. If you want good outcomes then teach these kids to just accept the cards nature dealt them, stop wasting money on drugs and plastic surgery, and focus on things that actually matter in life.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Couldn't we find agreement that the costs should not be publicly funded? Aren't you just subjectively interpreting other people's choices? Isn't the freedom to consume whatever drugs and medicine one so pleases in the privacy of one's own home just the cornerstone of liberalism?

[–]LtGreenCo 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I only commented on best outcome, not restricting freedoms.

But if you want me to talk about what should be legally allowed? I'm pretty liberal. If a grown adult who understands the risks wants to go ham on trannydom then sure, go for it. Feel free to look and act as ridiculous as you want as long as you aren't imposing on others.

Kids aren't ready for it though, even if the parent is okay with it. Same reason as a society we legally don't let kids gamble, smoke cigarettes, etc., regardless of what the parents think. And if you need evidence that it's not something a child is ready for, then the umpteen thousands of depressed and ruined people in the detrans community are a good start.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Children don't have the freedom to consume whatever drugs they please. Neither do adults. We know certain drugs, like opium, have a large net negative social impact as well as their huge negative personal impact and so we restrict them. It's utterly stupid to assume that there's some universal unrestricted right to consume whatever drugs one pleases.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Making laws for people "for their own good" is a well-known sign of a tyrannical, big-brother nanny state.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's not "for their own good" it's for the good of society at large.

I don't give a fuck if someone wants to kill themselves with opioids or cut their own dick off. I do give a fuck if that someone then wants me to pay for their support afterwards, or starts going around stabbing people at convenience stores to fund their habit.

There's a fine line between government nanny state tyranny and broadly beneficial policy. I tend to agree a lot of the drug war is done appalling bad to no results, but there's a reason why "nanny states" like Singapore where chewing gum is banned have you unlikely to be murdered if you go for a walk.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I do give a fuck if that someone then wants me to pay for their support afterwards, or starts going around stabbing people at convenience stores to fund their habit.

And both of those are the fault of government. I shouldn't have to explain why for the first scenario. The second one happens because since drugs are banned, drug addicts have to buy them for extreme prices from gangs or the mafia, from whom they face barbaric threats if they fail to pay off one penny.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No people get addicted to drugs and it fucks up their life because all they care about is getting more drugs. Doesn't matter if the drugs are cheap or expensive they'll not be making any money because they are doing drugs all the time.

I'm happy to support drug decriminalization and other adjustments to how we enforce it to help stop the exasperating of the problems our enforcement methods are causing. But the very idea that stuff like Heroin shouldn't be a highly controlled substance is ludicrous.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Now you're back to "for their own good".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's utterly stupid to assume that there's some universal unrestricted right to consume whatever drugs one pleases.

Wouldn't it be silly to stand in front of a semi-truck traveling 80mph? Aren't we just doing precisely the same thing by pretending that a 21st century drug war is even remotely possible? Couldn't you just worry about drugs that affect people's ability to operate machinery instead of trying to prevent people from accessing hormones and abortifacients?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's illegal to stand in front of a semi-truck traveling at 80mph. We can't begin to take reasonable steps to enforce it or stop all people from doing so if they are suicidal, but it doesn't mean we should pretend that society should take no steps to prevent suicidal retards from dragging society down with them.

One reason why freeways and bridges have guard rails to make it hard to jump or fall off.