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[–]LtGreenCo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If all of this wokeified media keeps failing, but studios are still churning more of them out and doubling down, then something's not adding up. One would think good ol' capitalism would've stepped in and corrected things by now.

I'm no conspiracy theorist but I can't help but wonder if there's some Illuminati-level shit going on where a cultural renaissance is being forced on us. None of the cultural changes in the past 10 years have been organic. It all seemingly came out of the fucking blue and all at once.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Doubt it. If I was the Illuminati and wanted to influence the culture through media I would be simply adding the messages that I want to promote seamlessly into otherwise good films. Rememeber that box office returns do translate directly into viewership numbers and if those are down your not going to be reaching as many people. So this would be counter productive.

There's a very simple explanation. Hollywood types are full of themselves and studios are slow to adapt to audience taste. Activists are the most vocal and they're everywhere in media type positions. Once the stock prices really begin to reflect the lower viewership numbers then you'll see CEO get fired and a lot of woke projects shelved. Happened with WB fairly recently I think. They got a new CEO and he up and shelved that completed batwoman movie. Meaning that the movie that was already finished was deemed as so bad that it would hurt their brand beyond the simple box office losses.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They didn’t just shelve the Batgirl movie, they deleted the hard drives. The film doesn’t actually exist anywhere anymore.

From the one behind the scenes clip I’ve seen, it was going to be a real stinker. The actress they got to play Batgirl couldn’t even run in a convincing fashion, even when they put her in sneakers instead of the Batgirl costume boots. It was laughable.

Hopefully bringing on James Gunn and potentially Jon Favreau will make a difference to DC films, as will bringing back Henry Cavill to play a more comic book-like Superman, from what he’s hinted at it sounds as if he’s making it a requirement that they be more traditional with the role and storyline from now on.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lead times. Films are in development for years before they get to the cinema. We probably have years more of shitty woke films to sit through - although we might see a change from Marvel after Black Panther:Wokanda Forever because they changed the line up after various MCU films and TV shows shitting the bed. BP:WF is looking fucking awful, some of the clips I’ve seen are embarrassing.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

  1. They're not making money. These films are a loss leader for a destructive cultural revolution.

  2. Hollywood is so good at marketing films that they can make any turkey fly. Sure some will miss, but the studios only need a couple of hits a year to stay afloat.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are making money.

All the Mavel films make huge profits.

Why not just take 2 seconds to check facts.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

See: 2.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it's more likely that economic factors have just essentially made original ideas financially too risky to endure. So they crowd source ideas based off of whatever fake posture most of the internet is taking, make a film that tries to please those people, and are surprised when everyone hates it because no one actually means anything they say online for attention.

[–]Newzok 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's likely subsidies of some kind that give an incentive. I can't think of anything beyond that, except everyone in Hollywood being so far up their own ass they can snort yesterday's coke. But yeah the wokery is on a massive scale now and I feel it's not organic too. How does every franchise get the same treatment, how do we see the same character types and signalling of what's the right thing? It seems like a concerted effort to me.

Like Drinker I'm super done with this shit. It sneaks into almost everything now. I feel it when the thing I'm watching gives me a nudge to feel the correct thing, and it makes my eyes roll.

Anyway, watch arthouse films and you get none of this shit. Just (usually) quality with minimal agenda and earnest expression.