Heterosexual woman but make it woke

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[–]Athelhilda4 20 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 6 fun -  (29 children)

She looks twelve.

[–]jet199 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Hence why she's been targeted for grooming.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

u/fuckyourmom is doing something about it

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Le Kek

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, that's quite disturbing.

Such a very young girl shouldn't hang around in the gay communities, where there are lots of sexual degeneracy, it's not healthy for her mental sanity. Where the fuck are her parents?

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Her parents probably lost custody of her for not entertaining her delusions.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Dah in Soviet America no parent is fit to raise child it take entire corrupt government facility to properly Raise child

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know you’re joking, but this is the mentality of many politicians, CEOs, social workers and journalists in America.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They deserved it for being a shitty parents. Children fron healthy families don't participate in this gender insanity.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’d be surprised. It’s very easy for a child to get manipulated by the media, by teachers, and by his or her friends' parents. But I suppose having good parents reduces the chances of that happening.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I also think it’s a bad case of gay fetishization and “not being interested in makeup and feeling uncomfortable with sexualization must mean I’m not a girl!!!1!”.

Idk if you’re a man or woman but I’m a woman and I can really see how bad it is in some spaces, mostly online. A few of my artist acquaintances trooned out to FtM or nonbinary over the years and it’s awful. I don’t have contact with them anymore but it’s creepy it happened to them. However, looking back, there were signs that could happen.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

The thing is though, while it's hard to say due to the text dominating the photograph. She looks like she might be wearing make-up. A lot of these trans-masc, 'gay-men' wear make-up. I was in a hobby group a couple of years ago where a bunch of girls were keen to point out, even though no-one ever asked and it was in no-way relevant to the hobby, that they were femme-presenting, afab, enbies/transmascs. So basically girls who liked to dress and present themselves in the styles currently fashionable for girls, but had souls too speshul to actually be a girl. They got quite the discussion going between themselves about how hard it was when people assumed you were a girl just because you were biologically a girl who styles oneself like a typical girly-girl.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I'm woman too and durning my teenage years, I wasn't really feminine at all. Never wore make up up or feminine clothes, didn't bother to style my hair, never cared about fashion, played video games and watched porn, majority of my friends were male, hated my body but I never, ever wanted to be a man. Heck, I even enjoyed reading lots of yaoi fanfics in the past too but I never in my life wanted to date a gay men or identify as some "gay transmasc"or something.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think during my teenage years I didn’t also much care for being feminine, perhaps I wasn’t a total tomboy but I disliked dresses (it kind of reversed recently), I still don’t wear make up because I don’t like it. I also don’t care about fashion and like games except I’d never watch porn because that’s disgusting to me. Most of my close friends are male too, over the years I started to have better relations with girls too. I also never wanted to me a man. I think due to that I was luckily to be against some nonsense, even in my years where I’d support the cursed “trans rights”.

Makes me wonder if the majority of girls being tricked into this is only motivated by “justice for the oppressed”, self-hate or the fact they never met MtF. Because now as I think, the only trans people I met were all girls turned FtM or NB, had I met any trans woman I’d be much more disgusted. It’s not so outrageous nowadays in Western culture for a woman to dress in a masculine way while it’s worse when a man attempts to be feminine and MtFs are often the worst degenerates.

I never had a yaoi phase but knew some who did and I wonder, is it a thing because some girls and women are told the hetero relationships will have them in worse position? As in submissive to men, being subjected to sexism, etc.? So that they fantasize it’s better to be a gay man and that gay pairs are idealized, more woke, prettier etc.? That’s definitely a weird trend. My own ideas is that it’s something that contributes to becoming trans, as well as self-worth issues, trauma, social contagions and toxic families.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But yaoi is exactly the same as heterosexual romances. It usually depicts submissive, feminine looking man being dominated by a bigger, more masculine and proactive one. Basicaly typical heterosexual relationship but with two men instead of man and a woman. It shows that those woke, yaoi obssessed girls are just hipocrites and liars. They don't care about equality at all, they are just extremally insecure and hate being a female.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s true, I mean the difference is characters being same sex couples so some find it a reason to praise that thing. So many toxic scenarios in het romances would be called out for being wrong yet in LGBT fiction that somehow passes, at least to many readers. It’s like they only care for “representation” and might consume whatever just that it should have queer characters and various woke side stuff preferably.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a lot of this is how language works in the brain--the same sexual configuration would be categorized as "gay" in a man in Houston, but "top" for someone in San Antonio; a "fabulous gay" would be a "marica," etc.; so it's more complicated than just social contagion+siloing (which is also a big factor--there's a reason they're all left-liberal, college undergrads in certain disciplines, dyed hair, piercings, cannabis, "spiritual but not religious": most are also NON-zealots even if they get swept up, since 1. most people aren't that obessive about any one thing and 2. that means surgery)

that's part of why they put so much emphasis on "representation" and "normalization," but instead just give you SEVERAL categories that are basically "not dysphoric, but also not cishet and male," "not dysphoric, but also not cishet and male," "not dysphoric, but also not cishet and male," so basically they haven't found any useful answer for themselves

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

A lot of trans men look like 12 year old boys.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Cue Ellen “Elliot” Page.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ellen Page the anorexic, who everyone celebrated when she decided that she wanted to hack off parts of her body, the ultimate weight-loss plan. She’s the poster girl for the sickness of this shit, obvious mental illness treated as cool and special because the mob says so.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

She looked pretty before she trooned herself out. Now she looks like a mess. Initially, when she decided to mutilate herself, I felt bad for lesbians because lesbians lost a role model who many people considered hot. Even I as a gay man thought she was beautiful. But Ellen is insane, so maybe it’s a blessing in disguise for lesbians - don’t scissor with crazy.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 7 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, she looks like a 40 year old emaciated lesbian pedo.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

She looks like Freddy Highmore when he starred in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

[–]r2d2_21 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel sad for her. In pictures post surgery, she looks absolutely miserable, almost as if cutting off healthy parts of your body can have traumatic consequences.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Probably started puberty blockers at birth

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

In-utero puberty blocking, I mean, it’s a choice.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Their bodies her choice

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Her body, the groomer's choice.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Groomers choice awards

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. She will find all the men she wants in the P community.

[–]Datachost 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm to feminine for gay guys

Is she aware of the existence of twinks? She's not too feminine, she's too female.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah at least twinks have penises.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Gay transmasc, aka just a dumb, delusional heterosexual girl with extra, unnecessary steps.

Oh honey, im sure there are thousands of heterosexual guys who would gladly date you , you don't need to be masculine at all to date them. Just leave the faggots alone, they will never be attracted to your vagina, your groomers lied to you.

[–]jet199 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Likely she is purposely doing this to keep men away.

But she still gets lonely then has to whine and blame everyone else.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

She wants what she cannot have. All she has to do is look pretty and be nice, and a lot of straight and bisexual boys her age would be interested in her.

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think the reality is that if a load of gay men did pursue her like they do each other she'd be terrified. This stance is a great way for her to pretend she's open and available, that she's cool, when really she is scared of intimacy and sex.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it may not totally be just that, but that she's finding out gay men aren't the same as the "two hunky guys who like to fuck each other" BL/yaoi series that's the same thing as male-focused all-girl porn, and she's finding out that "finding two hot, handsome, Chad-esque dudes who are banging each other to fluff themselves before double-teaming a fujoshi" is exactly as unrealistic for a woman to expect as a man to expect the equivalent to happen.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Gay men can be ruthless and demanding when pursuing each other.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

TL;DR: My attempt to be a "not like the other fetish-obsessed straight girls" gay man failed, gay dudes won't dick me down. Wat do?

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I’ve met women in real life who look like that. Some of them are married or have boyfriends. This woman could be happy if she stops faking and starts making better choices.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

She's not a woman, she's a underage girl.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

WTF?!?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't know you were Muslim.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Tell me you’re a fujoshi yaoi fangirl degenerate without telling me it.

[–]Scolias 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What the fuck did I just read?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Straight woman wants to fuck gay dudes but gay dudes don't want to fuck her because she isn't a gay man. So now she is whining about how she isn't a lesbian because only lesbians give her attention and she doesn't like it.

[–]LtGreenCo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So she hates being trans because she doesn't want to transition. Makes perfect sense.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I read a good point about these transmasc/transman girls. They do nothing practical to masculinise themselves. They usually have short hair but in a fairly feminine cut. They usually dye their hair, which is still largely something mainly done by women. They very often wear make up. They wear jeans, t-shirts and hoodies, like all women. At most they wear a breast-binder but that's just a fashion choice in their circles, albeit a genuinely unhealthy one.

If they truly want to be more masculine, how come they aren't doing consistent, weight-training designed for muscular hypertrophy. That kid has the small rounded shoulders of a skinny woman. She could spend 30 minutes a couple of day a week to widen her shoulders and add some bulk to her arms. I'm not saying that being a muscular woman makes a woman manly, a muscular women is literally still a woman with the muscles of a woman. But surely one of the very first things a young girl with actual gender dysphoria would do is buy a pull-up bar and some heavy dumbbells and start working on bulking up? They'd not just build some more 'manly' muscle but they'd also, with time and effort, get to enjoy the 'not like other girls' sensation of knocking out 100 push-ups, doing even a single pull up, or being able to dead hang for several minutes as a time. It would all, surely, aid their sensations of dysphoria. But yet they don't actually do anything that requires effort and hard work. Almost as if they don't have any actual dysphoria at all............

[–]Datachost 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I read something a while back about the concept of passing and how increasingly it's become less about actual appearance and more about the performance. So in their minds a lot of TIMs and TIFs genuinely believe they pass (or at least have deluded themselves into believing it), because they're "performing" femininity and masculinity respectively. Lippy, long hair and a dress is all it takes to pass as a woman even if you're built like a linebacker and short hair and a flat chest is all it takes to pass as a man even if you're a waif.

And this is the end result of that belief. Eventually they come up across the cold hard wall of reality, when they try to hit on gay men and get "Eww" as a response instead of "OMG YAAAAAS YOU PASS SO WELL".

[–]Wanderingthehalls 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You see it on reddit all the time in the trans-passing forums. A man in a wig or a girl with short hair ask if they pass and all of the comments tell them they very much do. Then if you look on a site like Reveddit to see all the responses, you'll see lots of extremely polite comments saying, things like, 'No, sorry, you look great but I can tell you aren't cis, maybe if you tried x hairstyle or a different style of shirt. You still look great though, real goals.' And those were all deleted, so anything apart from full on, 'uwu, you look super cis, better than cis!' gets deleted and these people who are at least somewhat mentally ill in the first place, allow themselves that they are convinced until the walk out the door.

Or in the case of girls like these, they go on Grindr and disingenuous bi-men, and opportunistic straight men who have copped to what's happening with these girls, pretend to be gay men so they can stroke their egos by pretending they think they are men and let them live out their bottoming fantasies.

[–]iamonlyoneman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

truth. i got an account banned from reddit for saying "no" on a "do I pass?" selfie post from a dude in a dress

[–]Datachost 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a gay guy on twitter whose pinned tweet is something along the lines of "I'd be angry too if people were constantly blowing smoke up my ass but leaving me in the friendzone". And that's why I don't believe it's kindness to pretend. Because eventually reality wins out. Whether it's the first time they try to pick up an actual lesbian who's secure in their sexuality, when they're shopping at GameStop, or even just from looking in the mirror and realising they've been lied to, eventually they're going to realise everyone around them has been lying to them. And that isn't kind.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

These girls often have eating disorders and then latch on to kpop guys or skinny anime characters as a kind of man they can larp as and then get away with starving themselves as gender confirming. They don't want to be like an American man.

[–]YJaewedwqewq 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what gays and trannies mean when they say they're "coming for your kids". To the very few of you in this sub that may think otherwise, simply look at the post. This presumably quite young girl did not come up with this shit on her own, it's what teachers now teach, what social media propagandizes and outright enforces.

The worst part is, unfortunately, children like this likely won't get any better (and in fact almost always get much, much worse) without serious outside intervention, and the governments of today and the hand-wringing organizations who guide them along will fight tooth and nail to stop any outside intervention from occurring.

[–]Rastafoo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WHAT LMAO