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[–]clownworlddropout 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

We need an absolute rejection of this ideology, and we need it yesterday.

Gender isn't entirely socially constructed, it's intrinsically linked and informed by our sexual dimorphism.

Men and women are distinct entities, not identities.

[–]IMissPorn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I disagree. Gender is not only entirely "socially constructed", it's a made up lie, no different from any other cult ideology. Accepting that gender is real is the first step down a path to madness.

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

What?

[–]IMissPorn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That's just what I've been thinking lately. Sex exists, obviously. But gender, if understood as anything beyond a synonym, is made up nonsense.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

True, gender is essentially a synonym for sex, it's only when you look at our culture obliquely that there's any use for separating sex and gender. Gender being the cultural expression biological sex takes in a society. There's no practical merit to separating sex and gender, it's only an academic abstraction.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They should have used a new word rather than twisting an already used one.

In countries which only have one word for biological sex (and gender is only a language term) they call this academic gender "sex roles" or "sex stereotypes".

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I vote for sex stereotype, it's a more accurate term.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender was the new word. People just took it to be a more "polite" way to say "sex" but were misusing the word itself.

It's a bit unfortunate that the word they chose was related to grammar which also has masculine and feminine forms which also have no direct connection to biological sex but do imply it in some cases.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gender really isn't a synonym for sex, "gender" specifically relates to language, whereas sex is biological reality. "Male" and "female," "man" and " woman" aren't genders, they are sexes. Gender refers to nouns and how they relate to other words, and the most common ones in gendered languages are "masculine," "feminine," "neuter" and/or "ungendered," though I believe some languages contain others (again, though, this is LANGUAGES, not PEOPLE).

A long time ago, people decided it was impolite to use the word "sex" in gentlemanly conversation, though, so they started using the word "gender" inappropriately as a euphamism. A certain high-profile groomer who wanted to abuse children decided to use that whole "word vs euphemism" ambiguity to add a veneer of scientific legitimacy to his darker desires, and now we are having debates about "there are only two genders" versus "gender is a spectrum," and the truth is both arguments are wrong, because they're both using the word "gender" as a stand-in for sex.

There are two SEXES. There are as many GENDERS as any language cares to have. Neither of these things are a SPECTRUM, and only sex is relevant to the idea of PEOPLE.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2nd wave feminism did adopt that use of the word gender to talk about a legitimate subject ie the sex based castes. Many of those same people also went full off the rails by claiming all of gender is a social construct as if evolution played no part. When the ignorant masses looped back around with thinking sex = gender, the TRAs went full nutter and brought in the social construct element to sex.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gender is a function of language, and only applies to people insofar as the language involved.

Languages use gender, people have sexes, and the idea of conflating the two came from people not wanting to say "sex" in polite society, even when referring to the differences between the sexes

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the idea of conflating the two came from people not wanting to say "sex" in polite society

Exactly.

“Gender Identity” was invented by infamous Mengele-wannabe and paedophile John Money. Funny how so many of the people involved in Queer/Gender/etc Theory are paedophiles or paedophile-apologists. Gets the old noggin joggin’. Groomers gonna groom.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Careful: Your stance is too close to the center!

If you aren't 100% in favor of killing all people to the Left of you, then you're a liberal and conservatives will demand your death

Of course, if you aren't 100% in favor of killing all conservatives, then you are one and the liberals will call for your death, too

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

That's why I support killing anyone to the left or right of me, and honestly anyone who believes exactly what I do but won't bow down to me. As is properly respectful in the modern political climate.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Πάντες γὰρ υἱοὶ ἐστε πίστεως• ὅσοι γὰρ εἰς Χριστὸν ἐβαπτίσθητε Χριστὸν ἐνεδύσασθε. οὐκ ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ἕλλην, οὐκ ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος, οὐκ ἔνι ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ• πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς ἐστε Χριστοῦ.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hey... who untied you and let you out of my basement closet?