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[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It’s not surprising. Matt Walsh, whatever you think of his beliefs and politics, has spoken truth to power and he will now suffer the consequences.

Much in the same way they deployed Jon Stewart, who himself once spoke truth to power, to attempt to debunk the arguments made by Walsh in What is a woman? and the exposé of Vanderbilt but instead of a debunking, Stewart just stood up a strawman and swung wildly and ineffectually at that.

The tailors of the Emperor’s New Clothes are fighting back against the growing chorus of little boys calling out that the Emperor is naked. They’re fighting back, but ultimately they will lose.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Well, there's the problem: Saying "What is a woman" is only able to be fought by strawmen, simply because the people fighting's counter is "I think, therefore I am". Once you argue "What is a woman?", the response by a snart will inevitably be "I. I am a woman", and "I am what I say I am" is the one argument you can never convince someone against.

No matter what you say otherwise, the belief they, personally, are what they say they are is their religion. Nothing you can say or do will change their mind, because their entire existence is built around "they, personally, are what they say they are", and to say "No you are not" is to say they're wrong. (Note: All sides have made it clear that the one thing any person will fight back on is "You're WRONG, and you don't really believe what you claim you do"...and if you try to, they'll be pushed further into that belief solely so you don't get to WIN.)

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's pretty fucking funny though.

"What is a woman."

"A woman is anyone who identifies as a woman"

"Yes but what is that thing they are identifying as?"

Crickets. Error file not found.

[–]aneebit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"A woman."

"Right but what is that?"

"A person who identifies as a woman."

"So when they tell me they identify as a woman, what are they telling me about themselves?"

"You'd have to ask them."

"So the word has no meaning."

"It has a very clear meaning which I've told you multiple times: a person who identifies as a woman."

Actual conversation I've had.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like these conversations. Very productive.

Ok so a woman is defined as "someone who identifies as a woman, namely someone who identifies as someone who identifies as a woman, or rather, someone who identifies as a woman is someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who identifies as someone who ..... Infinite recursive loop abridged for your reading pleasure".

Therefore I state that I hereby identify as a woman. My identify is valid because I have just validated it. And as a woman I hereby declare that a woman is someone "who is biologically female" and that trans women including myself are not women. I have changed the definition, my right as a woman to define woman as woman. You're welcome ladies.