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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Incels are kind of pathetic. At least the online ones. If we're just talking about general disallusionment I've got sympathy. Life sucks. Being lonely sucks. But this whole idea that you are being denied something, thus involuntary celibacy idea, just reeks of entitlement mentality to me. You can sit around on your ass lamenting how pathetic you are that women don't even want you, or you can go outside and touch grass. But hey you want to get a girl you've got to be someone the girl will want to get. Go work out, go get a career, go get a hobby, focus on this shit and you'll be able to find a girl that will be with you.

Trans people are oftentimes incels themselves. One of the reasons you see younger men transition. I'm unsuccessful with girls, because actually I am a girl!

Spoiler alert transition usually makes you less desirable to girls, and men as well. So it's a poor self improvement strategy. Better to start a transition programme into weight loss or identifying as someone who has a six pack.

Also just remember. You're not going to ever get laid if you just sit around on the internet complaining about not being able to get laid. Go to the bar, find some ugly 50 year old skank. Easy.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But hey you want to get a girl you've got to be someone the girl will want to get. Go work out, go get a career, go get a hobby, focus on this shit and you'll be able to find a girl that will be with you.

Also just remember. You're not going to ever get laid if you just sit around on the internet complaining about not being able to get laid. Go to the bar, find some ugly 50 year old skank. Easy.

But even that logic is part of the whole problem- when one side has to become "worthy" of someone's love, and the other side doesn't even have to change anything about themselves and they're inherently worthy, there's still a big problem there on both sides.

The answer is really "worthiness comes from within." If you don't feel worthy- and if you identify as an incel, you inherently don't- it won't work. You can become a bodybuilding billionaire with a great hobby and you'll still be an incel who that ugly 50 year old skank would laugh at.

[–]Dzonatan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One does not become a bodybuilding billionaire and still have a horrible outlook on life. It just doesn't work that way. Both thing require discipline that naturally kills of whiny attitude.

Also you'd be surprised how many women get turned down for being too far or ugly. The reason you don't notice it is because you don't give butter golems anything pass a glance you regret in the first place.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You'd be surprised how attitude goes through for anyone. There's people who are at the top who are toxic.

The other side is also the problem. There's a lot of people who won't settle for anything but perfection- both incel and "butter golem"- but a lot of the biggest incels would sell their soul to the devil just to be falsely accused of rape by one of those butter golems and would happily go to jail forever for a crime they didn't commit, just so it's a matter of public record they once had sex.

[–]Dzonatan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Geee... No need for the whole soul selling. Personally I'd just go to Amsterdam or Singapore.