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[–]Chipit 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Because it is an ancient instinct to ostracize the unfit males and prevent them from breeding, so as to prevent their inferior genes from being passed down.

This instinct is so strong it even overrides the compassion of those who tell us that they are compassionate towards everyone and offer unconditional love. What they want is to make these men feel horrible. Hurt them, torture them. Make them feel so miserable that one night they run off crying, unwanted. Either that or they drive them to commit suicide. Both are equally acceptable outcomes.

But the same internet that allowed the trannies to find each other and create groups also did this for the inferior males. Nothing changed, though, the cruelty is still there because it is very deeply ingrained in the human psyche. They, as our hunter-gatherer ancestors, feel strongly that they are doing the right thing when they torture unfit men. And I get it: they don't want these men breeding and passing down their poor genes. It's just that I thought we were long past that as a society and didn't do this shit any more. But they love it.

"Incels are a hate group" say the empathetic left, and they mean it. They have the same view towards incels as the Nazis did toward the Jews. A horrible stain on the human race best excised, permanently.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Lions play fight with each other not to hurt the inferior male lions but so they learn how to fight and are no longer pathetic failures.

Humans do the same shit. Nature is cruel, and if you are scared of going out and killing your own gazelle, you starve.

[–]ReconNinja 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The point is we want humanity to use our unique intelligence to see through our base predispositions and create a world as free from the unforgiving harshness of nature as possible, not to be captive to them and view such harshness as insoluble (or just). The fact that you and I are communicating right now is the result of a synthesis of hundreds of technological and social developments which never occur in nature. The anesthesia used to relax my body enough to surgically implant a pacemaker inside my heart is unimaginable to humans as little as 500 years ago, let alone animals with no capability of high cognition. Do you think I deserve to be dead because I have a neurological condition which causes wildly overactive vasovagal responses which cause asystole?

Am I saying we should have a system to harness women as sexual chattel for men who have failed to attract a partner? Of course not. What I am saying is that we shouldn't view evolutionary reality as morally prescriptive. Besides, most incels aren't inexorably hopeless and irredeemable. There are poor, ugly, socially awkward, and even violent, overtly misogynistic men with wives and children. A fifteen minute stroll through any Walmart should disabuse anyone of the notion that romantic and sexual success is only achievable by the genetically gifted of humanity. A lot of romantically challenged men don't even identify with that specific subculture, and don't deserve to be unfairly lumped in with them too. Most of them can be helped (even if they do need to take action on their own end, a socially oriented goal necessarily requires help from others), but the first step toward that is to not dehumanize them and act like their suffering is a good thing.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are people claiming their suffering is a good thing? Is anyone claiming humans resourceful nature and use of tools and technology is a bad thing in it's own right?

It's not about moral stances so much as its just you can't control the laws of nature. Sure humans can fly now, with incredibly complex and expensive flying machines, but still doesn't mean gravity won't win out if the engines fail. You can hate the fact you're constantly accelerating towards the center of the earth at 9.8 meters per second squared, but there's literally nothing you can do yourself to change that fact of life, you have to live with it. You don't have to like the dating game or how women work, but you can't change it, so if you want some you've got to work with the rules you are given.

Secret fact of life, if people really hate you they will just completely ignore you. No bullying, no harassment, nothing. Not saying the bullying and harassment are good, but it does mean the person sees some benefit in interacting with you, and a lot of the milder stuff is a form of play intended to gently change your behavior towards something that will be more socially successful.

Course everything has to be internal. There's plenty of single and unhappy men and women out there who would be happy together, but they've got to first actually meet each other, and they have to actively want a relationship and see themselves as bringing some value to it. Men have it harder than women in some regard because women tend to be more picky with their sexual partners than men, largely because risks for women far outweigh the risks for men.

But if you want to improve your life and stop being an incel, focus on making a life for yourself where you are happy without a relationship, and when you are happy there, then you can start looking for someone to share it with you, and you will find someone, eventually, don't expect it to be easy or happen quickly, but it will happen if you look.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)