r/MtF - I am on my period Very sane. Stunning and brave. In all the wrong ways.

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[–]Nintendogirl 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

Somewhat off-topic note. Am I like the only biologically female actual gamer? I mean actual gamers that play difficult console games (for me I like a lot of Nintendo games including a lot of Retro ones), woman that just play easy mobile games like Candy Crush, I don't count. Anyways, I tried to join an online group of female gamers once, and almost all of them turned out to be men that think they're women (and usually had disgusting fetishes as well). I left immediately. It was nightmarish.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Identifying as a gamer is your first problem as you'll lump yourself in with all the cringe losers.

If you like video games but don't care for pseudo gambling nonsense that just makes you normal.

You've got to abandon this weird identity bullshit. Your sex is irrelevant for what games you choose to enjoy, as it is for everyone, so joining a sex based group for it is as stupid as joining a "Men's book club" or what not. Women can read too.

We can discuss demographic differences they certainly exist. Reasons for it range from a number of things, cultural attitudes, sex based differences, can argue any of it, but none of it is relevant to you at an individual level.

I've noticed personally that there's a lot of gays who are nintendo fans. That alone in and of itself is fine as it's irrelevant. But some of them are convinced it is relevant and they start specifically gay gaming groups. If it's a pick up spot? A place to meet up and date, I understand it, but in the past they've claimed that the "gay" gaming group is open to everyone. Despite there being zero reason to call your group gay if it's just about games.

The women's groups are similar. Anyone can play a video game, sex is irrelevant, so any group that delineates sex with video games is automatically needlessly exclusionary and stupid. As such, it's bound to be infested with stupid people who care more about sex than games, and the normal game groups are sufficient for normal people who do not feel a need to be special.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Your sex is irrelevant for what games you choose to enjoy, as it is for everyone, so joining a sex based group for it is as stupid as joining a "Men's book club" or what not.

Men and women aren't interchangeable; men's only, women's only, and mixed groups all have different dynamics. Also, by avoiding the opposite gender you can avoid any issues that arise from sexual or romantic feelings.

it's bound to be infested with stupid people who care more about sex than games

I find it weird you feel video games are more important than sex. Although you gave me a great idea. If I let the wife play the Nintendo Switch during sex I might get laid more.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Men and women aren't interchangeable; men's only, women's only, and mixed groups all have different dynamics.

Well that wouldn't be so if those stupid groups didn't exist in the first place.

Also, by avoiding the opposite gender you can avoid any issues that arise from sexual or romantic feelings.

Well fuck all of that.

I find it weird you feel video games are more important than sex.

Sex is nothing but pointless primal drives. Video games are really fucking cool.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's not the existence of single sex groups which drives different behaviours, it's normal human instinct.

People preferring to associate with members of their own sex is common in every culture in the world.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And human instinct is not only stupid but evil

[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's an online group. Nobody gives a fuck or knows about your sex unless you make it their business.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lots of people have met their partners through gaming online, shit happens. And it's not all just women not wanting attention from men, which is the only time hiding your gender would be practical, since everyone assumes gamers are guys anyways. It is possible, although rarer, to receive unwanted attention from women, such as if you're in a relationship or she's awful.

[–]LtGreenCo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No you aren't the only one. There are more out there. My best friend's wife is into military-style FPS and also ARPGs. A coworker's wife is into Far Cry and Fallout, and her sister is into Skyrim and Breath of the Wild. We all kinda have a small gaming group of IRL friends, and there's no way pervs are going to breach it as long as we keep it small and tight-knit.

Honestly I think that's the best you're going to get these days, is a small familiar group of people you trust. Any semi-popular gaming space for women these days is going to be instantly overrun by AGP tranny pervs and lovelorn anime nerds desperately looking for a girlfriend. Good luck to you.

[–]Nintendogirl 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. You're right. The internet tends to draw in all the weirdos. I'll ask more people I actually know.

[–]Seedy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It’s just entertainment, like watching TV. I don’t call myself a televisioner and I don’t call myself a gamer.

[–]buzikvagytokmind 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ah, a "not like the other girls" girl.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Strange how almost all of them seem to be. But surely the stereotypes about women couldn't be wrong. Could they?

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's more that if you are gender non conforming as a women you tend to be outcast from female social groups full of agreeable people who just get along.

Then you internalise that and think there must be something massively different about you when it's actually nothing special.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That too

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was just in a men's group for mental health, I feel like I would have had a better experience in a women's group. It almost felt like a new male showing up a lion pride, might have been in my head, but you don't have the same concern for pecking order with women, well sometimes.

[–]QueenBread 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Settle down. I'm a female gamer and I bet I'm even more hardcore than you. We're so rare it's a bit disheartening, but we exist. You're not unique. I don't play Nintendo, that's for kids. I play Doom, Mortal Kombat, Forza Horizon.... I particularly like playing fighting games competitively, although there's a lot of trannies and incels in the fgc.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

. I don't play Nintendo, that's for kids

I used to think that also, but on the Switch, Legend of Zelda: BoTW and Smash Bros. were excellent games. And their mario platformers are the most challenging games I've played in recent times.

They're all more difficult than those with a more serious gamer cred like the classic Witcher 3.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nintendo has pretty consistently made good games over the years. Though the childish brand is certainly on point as they don't make their games near as violent or mature seeming as is common with most western games, this is rarely a problem so long as the core gameplay is competently done and the game isn't a cheap cash in designed to trick parents and grand parents into buying it for their kid.

Problem with Nintendo is the same problem with Anime. Fan base is horrendously immature and socially awkward. Probably because it's filled with loads of kids and teens that are going through their stupid phase and are doing the "I'm not like other kids" hipster shit. There's good stuff out there so it's best not to write off the whole genre outright, but you'll be forgiven for doing so if your only exposure is due to the weirdos online.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My wife is a gamer.

actual gamers that play difficult console game

We beat Gears of War co op on Hard mode, and she can kick ass in CoD, but she also likes her phone games.

[–]Nintendogirl 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's cool.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't play much anymore because my hands are arthritic, but it's nice to be able to hand off the controller if one of us is getting stuck or frustrated.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, but there are likely more transwomen in America now than adult women who play console games without male encouragement.

And this situation was created on purpose for marketing purposes. The same reason toys were divided into pink and blue around 20 years ago.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Games got marketed hard to boys as the marketing teams seemed to greatly misunderstand the appeal of games in general and therefore the kinds of games that would appeal to most girls.

It's pretty easy to take an existing property, say spiderman or something, and make it into a "boys game" where you focus on action. So the marketing teams thought they could take something like Barbie, and market it as a girls game but with toned down violence or whatever in an attempt to appeal to girls. Usually resulted in something boring that neither girls nor boys wanted to play. Course the problem is they were going about trying to make a "girls game" in the first place rather than just a game.

Most games that do the best with female demographics are indeed the kind of puzzle games, Tetris or whatever, but that's true of the so called "casual gamer" demographic in general of people who don't spend that much time playing or learning more complicated games. I think most of the difference in game use by sex is mostly going to come down to the same reasons why boys are usually more interested in sports. Competition and willingness to devote energy to less social pursuits tend to be more common in males than females, course women do like sports and the top levels of anything is always going to be a bunch of very competitive people so sex does become irrelevant at that point beyond physical differences since it's down more to individual interest and you're far abstracted from the level of large scale sex based trends.

Women as a whole seem to be more interested in games like the Sims or other so called life simulation type games. These have seen a pretty substantial female player base.

Course I think the main thing is open ended games appeal to a wider variety of people since you can play it however you want. If you prefer to play something like Skyrim as s violent criminal thug you can do that, if you want to play it as someone who just goes out and picks flowers and cooks food you can do that. Most people will do some of both, but the wider the game the more likely it's going to appeal to a broader audience which of course will also include women.

Reason why trans-women are overrepresented is because of the internet. Also the gamer phenomenon where the most useless and anti-social types escape into fantasy worlds vs interacting with real life and spend all their time online. So no surprise that gamers that don't really have a life and spend all their time online get sucked into the trans cult.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've never actually played any sim games, but I used to play a lot of games like Mario and I'd roleplay more than I'd actually try to beat it. I was thrilled when I found Minecraft, and all I ever did was play Creative Mode.

Unfortunately as I got older the male hormones destroyed all my creative abilities, along with virtually every talent I had. My mind is always blank and I can never think of anything, never have fun, never accomplish anything, never do anything well. We were assured we'd quickly grow to like the "new me", but it's ruined my life and I say that long after the fact. I don't know if that's a gender problem or if every other man is just hiding these struggles. I feel like if my body was going to change all its abilities it would be nice if it could also change my interests to fit them and not leave me as the mess I am.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Literally every great work of art pre-1900 was made by a man but somehow male hormones destroyed your creativity.

And then stopped you accomplishing things?

More like, if you don't use it you'll lose it.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't hit everyone as hard. All I know is it was definitely caused by puberty, and the different skillsets make sense for living in the wild.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well I'm not surprised, who else would care about gender in a gaming group?

I'm sure you're not the only one. What probably happens is the men end up pushing women out of their circles, because they've been raised to fear even being in the presence of one unless it's about sex, lest they be called effeminate. That's probably how most "male-dominated" subjects came to be. And indeed, children don't really have these disparities. Where they do you'll usually find a bunch of complaints about parents and authority figures restricting them.