Wife declines MTF's request to open marriage, MTF cheats anyway, wife becomes suicidal, MTF feels "happy"

submitted by BenitoGreen99 from (i.imgur.com)

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]ClassroomPast6178 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (21 children)

A middle-aged man “coming out” as trans…who would have AGP’d it, so stunning, so brave.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

I'm more surprised the wife puts up with it rather than saying the magic words "I want a divorce".

If my partner came out as trans I'd just dump them before the cheating even could start.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Right up there with your spouse saying "I want an open marriage" for killing a relationship stone dead. That's just a really shorthand way of saying "I found someone I want to fuck who isn't you, and I'm going to sleep with them no matter what you say, but I'm really hoping you'll agree to my sleeping with them to alleviate my guilt about it."

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

Poor, poor Will Smith.

I wonder if Jada told him, “open marriage or I take half of everything and then tell the world about your love of pegging”?

Caught between a cuck and a hard place.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That sort of shit makes me wonder just who had the bigger part in fucking up their son and turning him into whatever the fuck it is he ended up as. I mean, he grew up in Hollyweird, so it was probably a given that he'd end up a little odd regardless, but he seemingly went from 0 to "WTF?!?" even faster than usual.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

You mean wearing a white leather Batman suit to a wedding, not even yours, isn’t normal behaviour?

I think growing up being the son of the one of the most bankable Hollywood actors and heir to hundreds of millions of dollars will do a fairly decent job of screwing you up.

The family stuff would have definitely contributed though, and now seeing your dad get publicly cucked out has got to wound your inner child. This is how supervillains are made.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

that's his everyday white leather Batman suit

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So silly of me!

[–]handbananasrevenge 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s always the mother. Always.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bet Jada was full Mommy Dearest with her kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkE9qaVgmo

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Combination of a number of factors in Hollywood I think. Busy parents will outsource their childcare to others, generally hedonistic lifestyle and personalities that value theatrics over any real substance, and the overabundance of money and nobody willing to tell you no, all together leads to this sort of stuff happening. Any one of those things by itself isn't really sufficient to give us the messed up Hollywood kids that we see, rich people often use nannies but many don't spoil their kids. Middle class parents often spoil their kids but aren't absent from their lives. Poor parents often are absent but the lack of money keeps the kids from thinking themselves gods.

There's loads of stuff that's bad for kids in general, and there are some Hollywood parents that can do it right but I think that involves a certain rejection of the "Hollywood lifestyle" and treating the acting job as just that, a job. But it takes a rare person for that not to feed their egos to the point of problems.

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol what did Jaden do now?

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing, that I know of. I was referring to past behavior.

[–]handbananasrevenge 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what she told him, or at least the first part.

He hit Chris Rock because he can’t hit his wife.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’d be the same.

“You want to do what now? You want to be known as Steve? This marriage is fucking done and I’m keeping the house and petitioning for full custody of the children!”

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think the spouse is likely also nuts.

Saying you have to constantly walk on eggshells around someone is a sign that someone is cluster b. She's certainly a hypochondriac.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well clearly, unfortunately this is all too common in abusive relationships. For normies on the outside we can all see it for what it is but for the person on the inside they're gonna find ways to justify it rather than admit the sour truth they picked the wrong person and that their relationship is doomed no matter what they do.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that's a pretty romantic view of abusive relationships.

From personal experience being dragged into other women's drama there's never just one psycho in any relationship, always two.

It's pretty common that in abusive relationships you have a narcissist man who is obsessed with his ego, pride and self image and a BPD woman who has a terror of abandonment. That's why these shit shows keep going. Not because this narrative that it's a slow build up they don't see coming but because the woman has already got a mental illness which means they will cling on to a partner no matter what even long before they meet their abuser. And that's why they go back even after they have escaped and are safe (which is something the feminist theories can never explain).

They don't pick the wrong person, they are the wrong person. This is why they will tend to end up in those types of relationships over and over again. These guys will purposely hunt these damaged women out but also BPD women will only want men who give them these big displays of emotion because it makes them feel important and wanted.

You can see from his post she has a whole list of illnesses which is a way to make him feel he can't leave and abandon her. Him becoming trans might be great from her POV because she'll know no other woman will want him. But him screwing around is the opposite of that because he could meet someone he likes better so that is not OK.

Edit: Just a note that I actually have a family friend going through this at the moment. She goes through the motions of getting restraining orders against him and then takes him back. Now she's got pregnant by him, which is a great tactic to tie him to her. She berates her family for not being nice to him after she's spent a months telling them all how terrible he is and that's she's scared of him. There's a good chance he'll kill her because he's already put his hands around her neck but no way to keep her away from him. You aren't allowed to section such women any more and if the police take him away she just chases after him more because her main concern not being rejected (not her or her kid's safety).

And we all know full well were this comes from. Her dad is a narcissist who was always the most important person in their house, ahead of the kids who actually needed looking after. So she was set up from a young age to chase and dote on such men. But of course her close family can't address that fact because then they would have to address their father's issues (which he still very much has). They have to pretend the situation just makes no sense instead which means they can't take the action they need to.

And this is like the third time she's had a relationship like this but it's the worse one yet.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah sounds rough, your take on it is probably right. Rarely in these cases can we say one side is innocent usually there's some kind of mutually insured destruction going on.

What's your take on the AGP progression though. My understanding is it's usually some kind of underlying fetish that's kept hidden but the man will essentially test the waters in the relationship so to speak and Arab and the Camel that shit until it's fully progressed to living the fetish 100% of the time, and probably dumping the desperate girl at the end of it for someone else after she's supported the transition. I remember there were these old sex change documentary shows back on lifetime or some other cable network god 20 years or so back and it was always some balding guy with a wife where something just seemed a bit off about her.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Same. This is so weird. Divorce can be difficult but why keep living with a person like that? I guess she was just pro-trans but that’s gross.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe sunk cost fallacy at that point. Plus it's not like you can divorce your partner in those woke circles for being trans without getting ostracized. Personally I'd not value the friendship of anyone easily manipulated by the partner but I've already been through a manipulative relationship where you have them trying to involve third parties and guilt you into doing what they want, and god if I've seen it happen many times, I'm like look, this is a private matter, I don't appreciate them making it a public matter but I can't control them, please respect our friendship and my wishes by staying out of it.

If they don't I just ignore them. Maybe block them if particularly annoying. Usually with these kind of toxic relationships I've noticed one party really has no qualms with publicly airing all their problems and telling everyone how horrible the other person is. And one party is silent about it. I'm inclined to believe the silent party is the reasonable one. If both are drama queens well, popcorn time.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

or when they shanghai someone else and make them CHOOSE an issue for them; I've even had that happen to me as a cashier, AGH