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[–]QueenBread 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Excuse me, but this is BULLSHIT. So many men promoting the idea that "the male form is not attractive" or that "men aren't usually considered hot, even by women".... which is 1) egocentic: straight men projecting their own preferences unto women; 2) myosginistic: "women cannot possibly find men hot, especially since they don't find me hot"!

No, buddy, usually women do find men hot and are turned on by hot dudes. And very much "consciously" so. It's natural.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's mostly straight men who think they aren't attractive because duh, if you're a straight man you're not going to be impressed by what you see in the mirror. Lol.

Women do the same thing, I can't being to to tell you how many women have told me they are ugly, too fat, or whatever else, no you're fine, maybe you won't be fashion model but if you think you aren't attractive that's because you're not gay.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do people really not find themselves attractive? I like how I look quite a bit. Like I'm not going to wank off to my reflection or anything but I like my natural shape and I like that I generally stay fit enough to look relatively close to my best potential version of myself. I have lots of physical faults and I am well aware that not everyone, or even most people will be attracted to me but overall I genuinely like how I look.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Think it's just the subtle difference between having self esteem and narcissism. I have the opposite problem where I don't care enough about my appearance to bother with much. Would be easier to stay in shape if I was disgusted by what I saw so I could use that as motivation to eat better and exercise more. Same reason why casinos don't have mirrors.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to be like that. I got quite overweight but was still fine with what I looked like so didn't really care. I tend to put fat on very evenly, so I was fat but with a nice enough shape, so not too bothered. I was pretty lucky to fall into a sport that I absolutely love right before middle age. So I started taking care of my body to be the best I can be at that. How I look is secondary to how I perform but I'd be a liar if I said that how I look now doesn't make me happy. And that I don't have a massive sense of relief that I pulled out of my unhealthy habits before menopause fucked up my chances to get myself on track.