NYT's attempt to further normalize chopping off depressed teenage titties fails as the comment section is flooded with sanity and must be locked

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[–]FlyingKangaroo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agree. I want to hope the person who wrote that referenced comment was clueless with the term “non-binary” but still... This is still shit to claim that a casual way of raising children, letting them play with what they want is “non-binary”. My mother never pushed me to like the overt the top girly things, I had many dolls but I also liked “boyish” toys, dinosaurs, toy soldiers. I didn’t care much for early versions of plays with makeup, etc. just what I found interesting back then. And somehow I grew up to be a woman who doesn’t base her value on what society or some stupid groups want to see women as. Almost as if the problem of the modern rise of transness in young people is not only linked to trauma and discomfort with the body but also social contagions, self esteem issues and the false belief that a new identity (and in many cases, a new body) will guarantee a perfect life.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's this whole confusion between "gender identify" and "personality"

Everyone's personality is different. Doesn't mean you're "Quick to anger-gender" or "cries too much during sad movies-gender" or "doesn't want to share toys-gender".

Kids don't have a gender identity. That doesn't mean they are "non-binary" it just means they are a normal kid. Hell most adults don't even have a "gender identity" whatever the fuck it is.

Even the whole idea of choosing your identity is kinda stupid. Gender or not. Sure I can choose to identify as a "brave and fearless" and while it's probably arguably a good thing to build yourself a positive self-identity, if you run away and cry at the first sign of stress nobody is gonna accept your self-identity of "brave and fearless". You can lie to yourself of course. But your identity is just as much shaped by others opinions of you than anything else.

It's just so bizzare that we are even concerned about this shit. A small child doesn't have any idea of what gender or sex even is really beyond a basic understanding that boys and girls are different. That's why kids get confused when other kids bully them for cross dressing. A toddler sees the dress up clothes as colorful costumes and not a gender identity. So they don't understand why they are being bullied for it. But a toddler also sees the road as a fun place where cars go zoom zoom and is traumatized and doesn't understand why mommy is screaming at them for running out into it. They're kids they're stupid cause they don't know better yet. But goddamn the unforgivable part is the stupid adults that should know better. Are we so goddamn blind to all this? How many historical cases do we need to through where some mentally ill parent, usually a woman hates men and forces their son to live as a girl. It fucks with the kids minds. It's far from uncommon it's been happening for ages but only recently have we gone, oh yeah that's totally a good thing. Sheer madness.