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[–]handbananasrevenge 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

It’s mostly about money. Troons are viewed as a mostly untapped market for the medical field. We all know how easily influenced young kids are.

The people promoting this are doing it for personal gain or because they just like subverting things.

They won’t stop.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I didn’t believe it until I saw the Vanderbilt Hospital videos on Matt Walsh’s show. I used to think the profit argument was a right wing fever dream, but clear as fucking day they were discussing it with regards to children and how profitable it was to do hormones and surgeries to kids. They were so brazen about it they had videos of the discussions on their website too.

[–]handbananasrevenge 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The “crazy internet people” have ended up being right about more than a few things these last few years. I used to dismiss them all as cranks until I started paying attention to the motives and actions of the people who called them crazy.

[–]alladd[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

crazy internet people have always been two groups - actual crazy ass people with terrible ideas, and smart people saying unpopular shit.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty much the same these days with Nazis and "Nazis," fascists and "fascists," and so on. There's the legit ones properly named for what they are, and then there's the people who're trying to be stifled with a dirty label because what they're saying is a problem for someone.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Remember when everyone laughed at Alex Jones for "Turning the frogs gay"?

Evidence suggests that pharmaceuticals are making their way into waste water and altering the hormones of amphibious animals.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People got too wrapped up in focusing on the wording, and the messenger, to pay attention to meaning. Even back when it first started making the rounds, I knew what he was trying to say.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Think about it man. The right wing is generally pretty much all about profits. Or at least that's the popular point the media wants to cover as they like the "profits before people narrative"

When people on the right are complaining about profiteering you'd have better take that seriously because when the party of lower taxes and corporate profits is pointing to something and saying it's bad it's gotta be fucking bad.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Nah, that's the old-fashioned RINO wing of the party. They're furious because they're being kicked out by the MAGA wing. Liz Cheney, neocon extraordinaire, just got kicked out and boy is she mad. Biden got on TV and called them semi-fascists in a blood-red scene right out of a Leni Riefenstahl film.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well you ain't wrong. The religious/moral right wing is much closer to the left wing than anyone is willing to admit. Dare I say they are basically communist in ideology as if we study the book of Acts we see the early Christians adopted a very collectivist lifestyle.

Hell if your read what republican darling Barry Goldwater wrote at the time with today's sensibilities your be forgiven for thinking he's a vote blue no matter who type.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/09/16/goldwater-lashes-religious-pressure/b1caa379-49fa-4e04-82de-dccda6f5e7f9/

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Alienhunter in another thread: "I'm a fucking professional racist first class"

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And fucking proud of it. If you're gonna be a racist be the fucking best racist you can be. Don't settle for 2nd place!

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

First class racists get much better perks than business class racists, like having the effectiveness of their oppression doubled at no extra charge.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

God don't even get me started on economy class racism these days. My god you have to pay extra for slurs and they just lump in the Irish and Canadians together. Like good lord there's no way I'm treating a Dubliner Belfaster and Canucks like equal trash no sir. Canadians don't fuck sheep my god they aren't Welsh. They fuck moose instead. But you go with economy they give a everyone the same meal. Ewe, revolting.

[–]alladd[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

am i the only one who isn't gonna feel bad when these narcissists all start suing each other?

it'll almost wrap itself up nicely. clinics close as the new wave of medical casualties decide to pivot and make being a late-capitalist victim of surgical experimentation their identity.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

While money is the majority, I'd also see population control as a big reason for it too. If the government made a plan to sterilize the feeble-minded, then any person with a soul would riot over this...but if they make a new movement that makes you cool and special and awesome and you matter more than anyone else in the world, and all you have to do is have yourself sterilized to be in the group...why, you'll get not just the feeble-minded, the social climbers, people of unapproved political beliefs/races, etc. to do it!

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well the government has already had and implemented such programs in the past. History of the eugenics movement is worth studying.

However I don't think this line of reasoning really tracks. The government doesn't really benefit much from sterilization of large swaths of the population. Quite the opposite in fact.

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The government doesn’t benefit, but everyone in the government is sure convinced it’s necessary.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Government is beholden to corporate interests. Short term profits are considered ultimate to all else, after all if you make bank why give a fuck about your successor. And let's be fair, trans shit is a money maker. Hormones for life, surgery、followups, reverse surgeries, make bank and when the heat is on retire.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't see how the government would benefit from sterilizing a large swath of the population who they don't like or who have opposing political views as the people in power?

Even the "the government is beholden to corporate interests" argument you used lower wouldn't work there since it even benefits the corporate interests: If you know it's inevitable the corporations are about to fully-automate pretty much every job possible, then you know that it's to your benefit to lower the surplus population as much as humanly possible before the automation starts. That gives you a two-pronged attack to do so- push gender woo onto the undesirable left wingers so they feel special and happily sterilize themselves, while pushing anti-vaxx or anti-mask rhetoric on the undesirable right wingers so they willingly die of preventable diseases. Either way, you've put enough chlorine in the gene pool the only people left will be the people rich enough to still have money/privilege in a post-automation world.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't see how the government would benefit from sterilizing a large swath of the population who they don't like or who have opposing political views as the people in power?

I don't, more people equal more power. You're still under this idea that democratic processes work, should the ruling class ever be disadvantaged by the popular vote to the point they can't manufacture consent they'll simply do away with the pretense of democracy and return to monarchy.

Even the "the government is beholden to corporate interests" argument you used lower wouldn't work there since it even benefits the corporate interests: If you know it's inevitable the corporations are about to fully-automate pretty much every job possible, then you know that it's to your benefit to lower the surplus population as much as humanly possible before the automation starts.

It doesn't work that way because the automation argument is retarded. It's all sci-fi nonsense that the proles eat up with glee because they love the idea of not having to work. End of the day it's basically a pipe dream. The more you automate shit cheaper shit gets the more demand there is and the positions open. But that's even assuming you "can" automate shit. It's far more complicated than the popular science mags want you to think.

Ruling class needs slaves to support them. Robots make bad slaves. They can't even make a good martini. Plus nobody wants a robot servant except the proles.