TRANSGENDERIt’s a trap! No, it’s sexual assault or rape! Prosecutors to decide whether gender identity changes consent, after cases of trans-trickery.

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[–]IMissPorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Probably because trans "men" can actually pass.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (18 children)

That's because they pretty much are men and aren't mostly just playing dress-up like mtfs. Humans are female initially, and change during prenatal and pubescent development from hormones. You can always go forward with it but you can never go back.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Lol no. You are right in the sense that appearance and the like is largely effected by the presence of testosterone so FTM do tend to look more like men than FTM look like women. But they still aren't "pretty much men" they can't do the one thing men can do that women can't, you know, impregnate someone, since they are still women and lack the male reproductive system.

Humans aren't female initially either, your sex is determined at conception based on whether or not the sperm that inseminates the egg has an X or Y chromosome. It is true in the sense that the fetus will develop a largely feminine outward appearance should the male hormones not be present during development as can happen with some intersex conditions, but humans aren't female initially, only the outward appearance is one that is more female.

Prenatal and pubescent development is just different between the sexes but it's not this nonsense idea that humans are female initially that's retarded.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

For all intents and purposes they are the same, save for sometimes reproductive organs. At the most extreme ends of this you have androgen insensitivity syndrome and XX male syndrome. I'm pretty sure the latter even has a functional reproductive system. A mtf cannot really accomplish these states because there are far too many permanent effects of male development. The permanent effects of female development are minimal and many do not appear until pregnancy. That's another difference, women get a lot more choice in going through these changes, they don't have to get pregnant if they don't want to. Men are forced into it whether they like it or not. Just the natural order.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The permanent effects of female development are minimal and many do not appear until pregnancy.

The ability to even be able to get pregnant in the first place is the "permanent" effect of female development.

[–]Houseplant 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

What? You went through puberty before pregnancy or something?Weird.

The rest of us only started menstruating and getting tits after the first baby. By the tenth baby you’ve developed into an entire woman and the penis falls off permanently.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

Don't be silly all babies are born female but only the ones the patriarchy give the royal jelly to while incubating develop into queens.

It's MENstruating not WOMENstruating you bigot!

[–]Houseplant 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

You evil cow you just actively ended lives by claiming men and women are not emotions.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Boys have a penis girls have a vagina. ~Adolf Hitler in Kindergarten Gestapo

[–]Houseplant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh god the bodies are piling up

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You sir, win the internet today.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Women can't go sterile afterwards? And I didn't say none did I?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women can get a hysterectomy sure but that doesn't stop them from being women and magically make them essentially the same as men. I can't even begin to explain how fucking stupid it would be to call the capacity for pregnancy to be a minimal difference.

[–]Houseplant 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I gotta know what you think these differences are that only manifest after pregnancy, cause your understanding of human sex sounds fuckin hilarious.

Please go into maximum detail.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's because they pretty much are men and aren't mostly just playing dress-up like mtfs

I love the r/ftm sub on reddit, bunch of crazy, fucked up women. They don't strike me as men at all. They think like women so they write like women.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't consider genderfluid sparkle girls ftm, regardless of what they say. All they want is attention. Most of them don't even seek medical treatment, because they're happy with their female bodies, they only care about the gender role. I'm sorry they're sexists but that doesn't make them men just because they think women have to act a certain way.

Also, the writing style test can easily fail. People usually try to determine someone's sex based on which one they're more stereotypical of, and it's never accurate. People don't have the social pressures of gender behind an anonymous username. Your impression of /r/ftm is most likely confirmation bias.

I'm sick of this gender stereotype nonsense, it's the driving force behind most of the recent trans insanity and "gender is a social construct". And people who think they're fighting back by enforcing gender roles again are only reinforcing it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, the writing style test can easily fail

I admit it isn't perfect. I have confused men for women, and have even been confused for a woman myself due to some usernames.

Your impression of /r/ftm is most likely confirmation bias.

It's possible.

I'm sick of this gender stereotype nonsense

Ditto!

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VgG1pXnMfc