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[–]Newzok 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Why is it only the gutter press that writes about this shit?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Because the broadsheets (WaPo, NYT, Guardian, etc) have been in thrall to the DEI mantra for years and as a result place such emphasis on representation, decolonisation, equity etc and whipping their own backs for the sins of centuries past, that when shit like this happens they cannot see it for what it is.

It’s how ridiculous “News” outfits like The Daily Wire are doing more to protect children from outright child abuse than the authorities that are paid to protect children from abuse.

Its how the British government can allow an infected wound of sectarian violence to fester in the middle of the country for decades because “Muh multiculturalism” until it blows up into days of bona fide race riots between brown people and the news media tries to claim its just enthusiastic supporters after a cricket match (where neither of the teams was a home nation).

Anyone who says that the infiltration of the media and government by the cretins of women’s/gender/queer/black/fat/etc studies is harmless is a fucking Quisling.

[–]Newzok 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

It's really worrying. And it puts us(or me at least) in the position of having to use these arguably extremely biased sources for anything resembling critique. But they're not exactly bastions of integrity either, so quoting them will label you as an alt-right wingnut. It's almost like it's by design.

I mean, we're here ffs. I don't know about you, but I'm a moderately normal social democrat. But enough is enough. All I want is for the powers that be to have fucking integrity but nothing does anymore.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I’ve drifted to the centre but I was a fairly left wing Labour voter (not to mention I was, prior to 2015, pro-trans, having had an acquaintance in the 90s who was trans and no bother to anyone).

My friends are all lefties and I have to be extremely careful who I talk to about this stuff because it really does seem like a lot of people are of the opinion that they like the wool over their eyes and they will shoot anyone who tries to take it away.

I cannot stand Matt Walsh’s opinions on any other subject, but he seems to be the only person in the media to have the balls to call a groomer a groomer. His film should be compulsory viewing for all politicians.

[–]Newzok 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm in pretty much the same situation. But I've had the pleasure to learn some of my friends are secretly un-woke and had some reassuring discussions. I'm also the token gay in the group so I think I'm assumed to be super progressive. Honestly the impression I get is that more or less everyone secretly thinks its all bullshit. Hypernormalisation of sorts.

Yeah I really can't stand Walsh either but his documentary was surprisingly decent. He's a result of the extremely partisan nature of America... It's that retarded way of aligning everything you think with a certain political direction that bugs me.

[–]Datachost 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty much the same situation here. I've had some conversations where I've tested the waters, pushed the boat out a little then drew it back in to see where people's boundaries lie. I know at least a couple of guys who are of the "We don't have to believe the same stuff, so long as you're not an arsehole about your beliefs" way of thinking. Which is all I want really, I don't really give a shit what your political leanings, sexuality, race or fashion sense are, so long as I know you're not going to flip your shit just because I don't believe the same things you do, or advocate for the same things you do. I don't need you to be a carbon copy of me to enjoy a pint with you, I just need you to not be a lightweight.

[–]Datachost 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've voted Labour in the last few elections, but with the way things are going I'm hoping the Social Democrats stand a candidate in my constituency, since their current manifesto lines up pretty well with how I feel right now. Really the LibDems should be manoeuvring their way into trying to snatch up the centre, but they're some of the looniest of the bunch right now. I really don't want to vote Tory, since they're so fucking awful on everything else. Wish I were in Sheffield, so I could vote for KJK and get to spite Eddie Izzard in the process

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw an interview with William Clouston recently and have looked at the SDP policy pledges and am starting to think that they might be worth supporting in my Labour stronghold London Borough, if nothing else just to show them that it’s worth standing candidates here.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My friends are all lefties

At this point I feel like anyone still on the left is either not very intelligent, or reading compromised news sources. Their beliefs sound so much like Marxism now. I didn't really think about that until the s/BookClub book was this truly awful Mass Psychology of Fascism and the author is going on about the Marxist lefties, and how the people were just too stupid to know they should really want Marxism, and not Fascism (right wing). And he's trying to figure out what to say to get the dumb peasants to react the way they want, to become Marxists. It was terrible, but his school of thought I see echoed in the "liberals" of day.

I mean, ffs, when did liberalism get so goddamned oppressive under the guise of being progressive.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's no shortage of smug condescending idiots who fancy themselves communists or Marxists that think they are better than everyone else and can't fathom how anyone can think differently. It's hilarious as they claim to be Marxist yet are bourgeoisie as fuck and utterly despise the rural and working classes as being beneath them. They are just as much caught up in silly bourgeoisie trends and care more about those than actually doing anything to help the poor and working classes.

Orwell said it best. "One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”

Any sort of strong ideological dogma leads to this kind of "I'm better than you because I know the thing how could you be so stupid" smugness and inability to take evidence or questioning that goes against your dogma. I'll rail on the corporate medical profit driven amoral capitalist systems when they cause harm to people but you'll share your side of the fence with all the idiots that rail against drugs because they "are chemicals" and that pot or whatever snake oil is trendy at the moment is gonna cure cancer or whatever. Can't argue or reason with them because if you even mention shit like drugs actually working and with proper use being better than some old wives cure with no proof they'll simply lump you in the same as some pill pusher wanting to get you on anti-depressants because your wife died and you feel sad.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Welcome to the alt right.

They told you that we are "bad" but we aren't. We are simply pro-white.

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sure. I'm not exactly anti-white but I'm not anti- any other race either. Race is a very American construction though. And a shorthand for class/culture.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You say you aren't anti white, but you likely have a host of ideas that are anti white without you having ever thought about them yourself, simply because we live in a society that is drowning in antiwhite propaganda, be it media, movies, series, commercials, etc.

https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/Black-Hate-Broadcast_1:d

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, no. I understand. It's in fucking everything and I notice. What astounds me is the way people bend over to accommodate whatever racial thing is seen as right. And I'm super done with racism being slapped onto legit issues just because it concerns certain diaspora.

The narratives and norms spread through mass media are insidious and I think most don't realise it's a subtle brainwash. We all want to do right.