MISANDRYWhy you shouldn't support feminism at all

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[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Have you considered that maybe what's "working really hard" for some girls is effortless compared to what boys have to do? Boys usually face a much larger threat from adults if they fail, and are expected to live up to higher standards. For girls it's no big deal because they will most likely get a man to take care of them. And you mentioned that this girl was attractive. Attractive women can easily manipulate others and may be used to getting good marks from charisma rather than having to actually perform well. This is why women are seen as "dramatic", they're not used to overcoming hardship on their own. Many will bail out at the slightest sign of something "complicated". Boys do it from a young age OR ELSE.

I want to say that none of this is womens' fault. It's society's fault for raising them that way. Until we stop putting women on a pedestal this will always be a problem.

In my experience there are more smart men, but the fewer smart women are smarter. Usually with autism and having a genuine interest in those subjects rather than having to be coerced into it by society. Scientifically women are definitely the smarter sex. But in this society they're not expected to use it, so most don't.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Have you considered that maybe what's "working really hard" for some girls is effortless compared to what boys have to do? Boys usually face a much larger threat from adults if they fail, and are expected to live up to higher standards

I don't think anyone ever had high expectations of me.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Compared to women or other men? Everything is relative.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Just in general.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You would naturally compare yourself to other men rather than women. If you are like almost everyone in this society you see women as on an entirely different level than you, and therefore don't think you're worthy to be compared to them.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If you are like almost everyone in this society you see women as on an entirely different level than you, and therefore don't think you're worthy to be compared to them.

Hells no. Women have a tremendous advantage from 16 till their mid 20s, but they don't generally age well, once they have kids their social value decreases, and around 30 is the baby crazy age. Lots of guys aren't interested in having a kid with someone they just met and well, that's what they kinda need to do as their biological clock ticks away. At 35 their social value takes a huge hit also as their ability to viably bear healthy children diminishes. And of course when they hit menopause... That can be a nightmare.

Men on the other hand tend to age gracefully, become more distinguished looking. Hair loss can be a problem, but there's hair plugs and hats.

I generally prefer female company, and I've spent my entire life pretty close to women. They're just people. A lot of them don't spend their nights out partying but rather sitting at home alone, or hanging out with a friend. Or watching their kid if they have kids. They don't have a hard time getting laid, but finding a decent guy is harder than a guy trying to get laid.

I've sometimes thought my appeal to women is because I'm honest and forthright. They're often used to being lied to by guys who just wanna get their dick wet. I guess I'm fun and funny and smart and good looking too. That all helps.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Men already aged just by going through puberty, it's pretty much puberty and menopause. And it's not true that womens' social value diminishes after age 35. Yes, an attractive one won't get as much attention anymore, but the Women are Wonderful effect still applies. You'd still much sooner shoot five 70 year old men than one 70 year old woman. This instinct doesn't appear to take age into account, I suppose because it's a lot harder to distinguish than sex.

Also, a lot of your response is under the assumption that everyone's ultimate goal is to have kids. I have no plans for that, which is a big factor in my willingness to tolerate the natural order. Because my biology is forcing me to sacrifice everything for nothing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You'd still much sooner shoot five 70 year old men than one 70 year old woman.

If you had to decide who would live and who would die, would you pick me to live, or that QueenToast woman I have been talking to in this thread? Are a dozen of her worth one of me? A thousand? How many would it take to replace a single Muskrat.

Men do not always have less worth than women.

Also, a lot of your response is under the assumption that everyone's ultimate goal is to have kids

That's our only shot at immortality. We might as well be plants. We are born, grow, and we bear fruit in the hope our information lives on after we die. And that's it. Why do we do it? Nobody knows but everyone else was doing it.

Nothing else we do matters as much as kids. I know, they're vile useless little fucks, but they are important.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's like the trolley dilemma. Killing either of you would be bad. But most people would rather kill the man and protect the woman than the other way around.

Your kids can't make you immortal. Are you your kids? You could say so metaphorically, the same way they say you die when the last person who remembers you dies. But there are much better ways to make your mark on the world, if you care, but there's really no reason to. Frankly I think it's better to not bring more poor souls into this world. Especially in my case, given my genetics, it would just be cruel. The path that leads to life is not of the flesh or this world.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your kids can't make you immortal. Are you your kids?

Your kids are a part of you. It's interesting, my niece's father wasn't in her life, but she has some of his mannerisms and personality traits. It's the closest we can get to immortality. Living forever as yourself just isn't in the cards.

Have you noticed everything exists to pass on its information, to preserve it in some form. It is written into everything living, a biological imperitive to pass on genetic code. The big question is not what is our purpose, because obviously that is the business of preserving, possibly refining genetic information, but what the hell point does that serve.

Maybe we sent our civilization across the cosmos and we're unpacking, rebuilding from some genetic Huffman table. Just send the least amount (lowest cost) of information required to recreate everything, a seed, and wait.

I can't help but feel the phenomenon of the hive mind is important. We see it, it's usually not good, but it's evolution. Imagine what people could accomplish if the hive mind could be used for good, and not just being an asshole on the internet.

It's like the trolley dilemma. Killing either of you would be bad. But most people would rather kill the man and protect the woman than the other way around.

If you pick me I'll lock you in a closet and forget about you for a couple days. That actually sounds kind of fun to me. Or, I don't know if you heard about the couple who abducted a girl and locked her in a small chamber under their bed off and in for years. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9428232/girl-box-under-bed-raped-tortured/

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women get to keep a lot more freedom in this domain, and it's why I'm so bitter about being male. Apparently asexuality or kink-only sexuality isn't really a male phenomenon, women are more likely to choose the single life, which makes perfect sense with their skillset. That was clearly a mistake in my case, along with all of my mind. I suppose before civilization I would be long dead by now because of my weaknesses. Nature likes to experiment with males because they aren't as valuable to it, but now in civilzation there's no longer any process by which the botched ones are killed off. So we just end up leading miserable lives. And toxic positivity is like "you just get to have an obligation to work harder! 😁👏". Like yeah that's so great, totally not a bad thing sugarcoated with cliches of "positive thinking" aka cope.