Arizona superintendent sued over ‘sex chat room' for minors — The lawsuit alleges Hoffman advertised links to chat rooms "where minors discuss sex and gender with adults present and without parents necessarily knowing."

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If this is what I think it is the standard DEI suite of links to support the Elgeebeeteaqueaiaeyplus.

Now of course you're perfectly right to point out the problematic nature of these links. Hiding things behind the parents back and the innately sexual nature of it all. Is a hotbed for child abuse. This should get more exposure and I think the lawsuits need to go much higher. But unfortunately since the targets are children looking to hide things from their parents it's not like you can easily get people to speak freely about their abuse.

Another thing I must emphasize is that these chatrooms aren't public. So it's even more sketchy we don't know what is going on in them.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But unfortunately since the targets are children looking to hide things from their parents it's not like you can easily get people to speak freely about their abuse.

Which is why the child protection training emphasises the need to report the request or promise of secrecy as a cause for concern. The report being made to the school’s child protection lead, or under certain circumstances the head of governors or under further circumstances the local education authority. All of which I’m sure there are analogues for in the US.

The investigation would then follow, and a teacher found to have asked children to keep secrets would be disciplined and potentially struck off as a teacher. The children wouldn’t have to reveal anything. Just the fact that the teacher asked them to keep secrets or not tell parents would be sufficient.

Another thing I must emphasize is that these chatrooms aren't public. So it's even more sketchy we don't know what is going on in them.

That would almost certainly result in disciplinary proceedings and being reported to the teaching regulator.

It’s hard to truly emphasise how much of a massive red flag “keeping secrets” is with regards to protecting children. The same people who put out the wonderful Pantosaurus song also teach children about the dangers of secret keeping.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is the one the CDC recommends on their website and I think it's likely the same as the one mentioned in this story.

https://www.qchatspace.org/

I think in these cases it's not overtly the teachers telling the kids not to tell the parents so much as it's the teachers not telling the parents. The kids are (often justifiably) worried that their parents are going to react poorly to the news (be that an outright acceptance or outright disowned, today's climate is tends to extremism of all types) I think the real issues come down to why such things are needed from the educational side at all?

Is there any need for "sex education" or resources for students of any kind that go beyond what you'd find in a science textbook?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there any need for "sex education" or resources for students of any kind that go beyond what you'd find in a science textbook?

I think there’s a place for teaching about the different kinds relationships (friendship, parental, etc) and safeguarding (what is and isn’t appropriate, what to do if you feel unsafe, stranger danger etc). I used to be very pro comprehensive sex education, but having seen what some people want to use it for I’m now very much in the Science and Safety camp (this is what sex is and how it works, this is how to not get pregnant or HIV, this is what to do if someone is making you feel unsafe, that’s it).

Tolerance for LGB should be taught as part of the British values stuff (tolerance, democracy, rule of law) because there’s no place for homophobia or racism, I’m sure you have a civics or citizenship type subject in the US too, but tolerance doesn’t mean that the mechanics of gay sex etc needs to be discussed.