Teacher told students to call pedophiles 'minor attracted persons'

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[–]IMissPorn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

From the article:

It wasn't clear in what context the discussion had been taking place, however students have said it was all part of a class debate as they prepared to read The Crucible.

That actually might explain it. It wouldn't be terribly unusual for a teacher to take a position they don't really believe in for the sake of getting students engaged in a debate.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes but what's the debate context? If you watch the video it's pretty clear by her tone that she's upset with this kid of calling a pedophile a pedophile which is weird as fuck.

Devil's advocate is an important position to take in the development of debate but I fail to see at all how it's appropriate to debate not stigmatizing pedophiles with a bunch of minors. Especially when the person making that argument is the adult.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but the Crucible doesn't really have pedophilia as a theme does it? If it does how the fuck is it appropriate for this age range as a class project.

There's basically no way this looks good.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Devil's advocate is an important position to take in the development of debate but I fail to see at all how it's appropriate to debate not stigmatizing pedophiles with a bunch of minors.

I mean, it's high school, it's not like they were young kids. Still, even if this is what happened it's very questionable judgement, but not as bad as it looks from the clip with no context.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

A fair point however I'll maintain I can't really think of a context where this is appropriate for a teacher. The only real context this would be appropriate to say is mockery, but even then it's inappropriate for the venue.

The apparent situation is that the teacher got upset that someone called a pedophile a pedophile and demanded they not judge people for wanting to have sex with a 5 year old. I fail to comprehend any context where this was a reasonable thing to say in the terms of debate? Were they debating whether or not it's ok to have sex with a 5 year old? That's disturbing and also would be an inappropriate debate for any school teacher to engage in.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If I was going to give devil's advocate for the terms of debate, MAYBE I could see it coming up as a "gotcha" of "Oh, you claim you're so progressive and you support equal rights for everyone...but you think pedophiles are objectively evil? You just showed there's groups you are intolerant of as well; what REALLY makes you so different than the people in the Salem Witch Trials?"...but even then, there's far, far better ways to go about it ("You claim to support tolerance of everyone...what about the people who disagree with you?")

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People seem to be claiming it's basically that. I'm not sure but I'm not there so it's a possibility. Still incredibly stupid to mention pedophilia in a school environment unless its in the context of stranger danger or "report to the proper authorities if you see abuse".

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly; and even if it's the claim I made for that, it ignores that discrimination is not okay if the person has not done anything to deserve that discrimination. But once they HAVE done something evil to deserve discrimination, then it's open season because they proved they deserve it. (This plays the role in pedophiles: If someone realizes the attraction and tries to fight it, they haven't DONE anything yet and are trying not to, so let them be...but if they do act on it? All the discrimination. They did something unforgivable and deserve it at that point.)

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I honestly can't imagine saying "don't judge people for wanting to have sex with a 5 year old" in any context except mockery... like if that was really your position wouldn't you put it a little more tactfully? I donno though, it's a weird situation absolutely, but I don't feel like I'm getting the whole story.