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New definition of woman just dropped
submitted 1 year ago by Datachost from imgur.com
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[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)
Yes this is all true, but I'm not suggesting that men can literally be women, but rather that new labels could be used. These new labels can be cleverly close to "man" and "woman" because these labels already have some gray areas like tomboys and feminine men.
To boil it down, the main problem is self-identification, not labeling a woman as man necessarily. The problem is that when people ask to be treated as the opposite sex, they are actually asking for people to believe that they weren't born the way they were born. The labeling is not a big problem otherwise. We already use these shortened labels everywhere else. We shorten "website" into "site", "movie theater" into "theater", "bicycle" into "bike", and I don't see why "trans woman" can't be "woman" when the details aren't needed (*as long as it's clear... i.e. "bike" can be clarified to be "bicycle" or "motor bike").
[–]r2d2_21 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
We shorten "website" into "site", "movie theater" into "theater"
Within this same train of thought, we DON'T shorten “sea lion” into “lion” or “air fryer” into “fryer” because the adjective is actually crucial in the definition of these terms.
[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
Well those differences are inherently important. A lion is a completely different species than a sea lion. I think dropping "trans" in a social situation isn't going to make a difference in many cases, which btw is NOT what the left is advocating for because I'm saying it's fine to know who is a real woman and who isn't. Additionally I don't think it should be forced or encouraged, or punished at all. I'm just saying the problem isn't really what we call them but the underlying framework of reality.
[–]r2d2_21 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
A lion is a completely different species than a sea lion
The same way a trans woman is a completely different sex than a woman.
I'm just saying the problem isn't really what we call them but the underlying framework of reality.
And I'm saying that what we call them just makes the problem worse. The only way to fix it is to call them what they really are.
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[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - (1 child)
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