Some thoughts on Win Butler’s cancellation I posted on r/antiwoke, would appreciate this community’s perspectives as well.

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[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It feels like there have been a few musicians and entertainers recently whose worst crime has been being a shitty boyfriend/sexual partner. If that's where you want to draw your line, that's your choice.

Honestly, that's been a problem with #MeToo and #TimesUp, where it keeps the Harvey Weinsteins of the world on the same level as, say, the Aziz Ansaris of "they described a bad date" or the Dustin Hoffmans of "he once hit on me, I said no, and he went about his day".

[–]Datachost 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly. I felt similar with Gus Johnson. Sounds like he was a shitty boyfriend, certainly. But that also sounds like something that should stay between him and his ex. Ansari sounds like he's kind of a clumsy lover, but he's not a rapist. I said earlier today that humanity seems to have a problem finding the middle ground and this situation just feels like another case of that. People shouldn't feel like they need to be silent over being victims of actual crimes. But at the same time, don't air your dirty laundry, relationship drama should probably stay between you and the other person, unless what your ex did was actually criminal.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. If anything, things like those are closer to "this famous person I met on Tinder wasn't the knight in shining armor who'd ride in on a white horse and save me from my humdrum existence so I'd live happily ever after, and I want revenge!" explains it all, and makes them insidious clout-chasers who are ruining a serious issue so they can try to be famous.

[–]RuinedSpiral[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is actually a really good articulation of this idea.