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[–]r2d2_21 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

This is just new religion lashing out at old religion

Is this why Pride is celebrated in this new religion? In the old one it was one of the cardinal sins.

[–]Datachost 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nah, that was initially as a reaction to being shamed for being who they were. Really the opposite of shame in situations like that is not feeling ashamed rather than necessarily pride (and you even have a good number of gay people saying that nowadays)

Though as another example, look at the planetary maps they used to draw up when geocentrism was the theory of the day. We're always told to trust the science, but that's a perfect example of how religion interferes with that. The lengths they had to go to, the knots they had to tie themselves up in to justify geocentrism, and have it line up with the observable movements of the planets were ridiculous. Planets just looping back on themselves for no reason. Because to dispute geocentrism was to dispute the church's teachings.

And yet now we're told to believe a man can become a woman, just because equally afraid scientific institutions are claiming it can happen, because they don't want to risk going against the modern church and they're tying themselves up in similar knots in an attempt to justify it. Sometimes things are genuinely more complicated than they may seem at first, but often enough if someone is trying to make out that something simple is actually incomprehensibly complicated, they're probably bullshitting.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The planets didn’t loop back on themselves “for no reason”, it was necessary under the Ptolemaic model of the solar system for Planets to have epicycles in order to explain the observations of retrograde planetary movements in the night sky. The model was sufficient for the pre-Copernican astronomers and astrologers to make predictions about the position of the planets and agreed with the underlying philosophical pinnings of the church (Aristotle). In fact the Ptolemaic model produces identical predictive outputs to the Copernican model.

What I’m trying to say is, all the gender identity shit is way more retarded that the Ptolemaic model of the universe because at least the Ptolemaic model worked, and when something better came along it was (eventually) thrown out the window.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gluttony also.