Do we all have slight autism and ADD? im starting to think a decent percentage of us have the same quirks!!!

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[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's probably almost impossible to have legit gender dysphoria without autism. Even most gay people have it. All of these and a few other disorders that always seem to co-occur have been suspected of being caused by a bad mixture of prenatal hormones.

But the trenders are also more commonly autistic, because their more vulnerable social skills make them more susceptible to gender propaganda. The rigid tendency to follow rules may also make them feel like they have to strictly conform to gender norms and label themselves as such.

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think it's something like autistic people are x6 more likely to be trans according to a study. Though they're not sure about the why yet. It could be a brain setup thing or it could be the rigid tendencies, it could be both or neither. Def interesting though.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/largest-study-to-date-confirms-overlap-between-autism-and-gender-diversity/

[–]LyingSpirit472 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think u/Vulptex was pretty close to the reason being socially based; the gender cult is the first cult to catch on autistic people are beginner mode to get into a cult/hate group, because they want nothing more than to have friends and a place in this world where they belong. If you're a cult, they're easy to get with that since it's just "ingratiate yourself into someone's life, make them have those things, then by the time you introduce the crazy shit in there, you're their friend and they'll fight for you just because of that."

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not to mention the fact that autistic people tend to fixate on things that pique their interest. If you get an autistic person interested in transgenderism, he or she will devote a chunk of their waking lives to it.

Of course, I’d say that most autistic people are not trans or know that it’s bullshit. An autistic person could go by the biological and accurate perspective of sex and not care if his or her perspective makes a troon angry. Also, a lot of troons are not autistic, but self- diagnose themselves as such so they can have more oppression points.

[–]gloomy_bear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I have autism and see gender identity as bullshit

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. A lot of autistic people are capable of seeing shit for what it really is.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think some autistic people might feel discomfort with various things associated with gender roles and perceiving of men and women in society, due to their relation with social norms and social codes but keep in mind that:

  • SJWs are making autism “trendy”, meaning they want to render it into another community akin to the sexuality/gender ones

  • unfortunately the autism community has some woke people into it as well (and some people are silenced; I’ve seen autistic people on Reddit unhappy with what’s going on and not being able to tell what they want to - though that is a problem growing in various communities, not only these centered around autism or other disabilities)

  • various people, also young ones, might be autism larpers due to feeling that claiming various quirks or feelings similar to the spectrum mean self-diagnosis, and asking for validity makes you “a nazi”

  • there is a degree of infantilisation of autistic people (and maybe something I’d call “wokenization”) - pushing the idea that they are more likely to be queer, etc.

Even though I’m not autistic, I feel it’s gross how the wokeness is poisoning minds of people who just want to get help of find people with similar experiences. This is not only bad for the actual autistic individuals but also bad for others who are clueless enough to start to associate this woke bullshit with autism and think that every autistic person is prone to not understand a concept of gender/sex etc.

[–]LtGreenCo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've met a lot of people with genuine autism and they are much more than just socially awkward; in fact they generally tend not to function or communicate well and they don't seem to give two shits about their gender identity. It's not even near the realm of things that concerns them.

And yes, I realize it's a spectrum and there are high-functioning autistics. Not all of them are like Rain Man, I understand that. But these trannies aren't it. These trannies are either people with a real delusional mental illness, or they are simply people with narcissistic personality disorder who crave psychotic levels of attention. Most of them these days seem to be in the latter group.

They don't have autism and to say they do is a disservice (and an insult) to actual autistic people.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think most of the Trans-karen and online types you see in the public eye are essentially narcissists along the AGP idea.

I've met a couple of autistic trans and I think for them it's more along the lines of social contagion and them trying to cope with their inability to understand normal human social interactions including those that surround sex. They don't crave attention in the same way a narcissist does, they just like anyone else want friends and relationships but it's more difficult for them to form them since they don't have the same intuitive understanding of human relationships and instead have a hard time parsing the often contradictory relationships between human social structures stated rules vs the normally unstated social expectations.

I think it happens a lot to women with autistic tendencies now since it's usually something that was diagnosed primarily in males untill more recently.

For the male autist then forming sexual relationships is quite difficult and it takes them longer to learn the rules, I knew one guy that really liked tits and skimpy outfits would talk about that with dates with no sense whatsoever of what was and wasn't an appropriate way of wording it or venue, didn't make sense to him. He learned eventually but took him a loooong time. Doesn't help that most people who will make friends with autistic and other people with mental conditions tend to be others with similar conditions and kind of lead them on down abnormal directions.

It would be of little surprise to me then that an autistic straight man with an obsessive interest in the female form and fashion would after struggling to form sexual relationships be open to comments like "this actually means you are a woman because men cannot be interested in the female form and women's fashion" and not realize how fucking stupid it is to assume that straight men aren't going to be mesmerized by clothing designed specifically to entice men.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can't even understand gender identity. It's all a social construct that doesn't mean anything, so why is it such a big deal?

[–]LtGreenCo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it's a social construct, at least not totally. I think the process of human evolution over the past hundreds of thousands of years has definitely had a hand in putting men and women into specific roles. As a result, women on average tend to be childrearers and caregivers, and men on average tend to be providers and protectors. We see that reflected today in people's chosen careers, where women dominate fields like nursing and childcare and men dominate fields like agriculture and security.

As for gender aesthetics, where there are differences between how men and women dress or act or carry themselves, I think that's much more of a social construct. Though I do think there are faint echoes of our evolution to be found there as well. E.g. men's clothing tends to be more about function and women's clothing tends to be more about form, which is somewhat in line with our evolutionary roles.

But we live in a much different world now than our ancestors. Gender roles are no longer critical to the survival of the species; we've transcended beyond that. And I think that's part of the problem because while gender roles serve less of a purpose now, they are still kinda programmed into us, and that is causing a lot of confusion.

[–]FourteenDigitz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

or they are simply people with NPD

There’s already a study with a high correlation between GD and NPD; over 50%. But of course they won’t share studies like this.

[–]r2d2_21 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say it's the other way around: declaring yourself trans is peak self diagnosis.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s hard to know. Autistic people tend to have poor social skills, and they tend to take things literally. Of course, there are exceptions. Many have learned to be critical of what they hear or see. On the flip side, a high-functioning autistic might recognise that transgenderism is bullshit while a low-functioning autist might not even comprehend transgenderism. People look at Chris Chan, but even among autists he is a really special case.

People with Asperger’s might be more susceptible to transgenderism. Again, I could be wrong. But Aspergians tend to fixate on things, are more prone to getting sucked into cults than neuro-typical people because they want a sense of belonging, and tend to have a rigid set of rules. There can also be Aspies who recognise that transgenderism is bullshit. But I’m speaking in general terms.

Then you also have the fact that a lot of trannies, enbies and such are just plain narcissists. They’re neuro-typical, but they self-diagnose themselves with having a condition so they can have more victim points. They happily base their self-diagnosis on having traits or Asperger's. Most people have at least one or two traits of Asperger’s. Unless you have been properly diagnosed, you’re not an Aspie.

[–]FourteenDigitz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Narcissistic and neurotypical are mutually exclusive.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course childhood trauma can also ape ASD and ADHD.

[–]raven9 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably something big pharma injected into everyone.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you all have narcissism, yes, which is the self-perception disorder that enables you to claim mental illnesses as distinguishing traits of your personality.

[–]TotoroDeams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRA = Always Autistic.

Autistic = Not always TRA.

TRA mentality is a sickness though, something that needs to be dealt with by a psychiatrist, not gender bending.