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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

I feel bad that someone committed suicide, but the answer to his issues was not to pretend he was a woman.

Quite the opposite. It is the absence of gender affirming treatments that is associated with suicide in people with gender dysphoria.

Adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment might be at risk of thinking about or attempting suicide. - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And then the treatments barely work and they still commit suicide. There is no escape.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Quite the opposite. Hormone therapy and social transition generally resolves suicidal ideation, as well as other mental health issues.

"Transgender young people often present with severe depression, anxiety, and even suicidal ideation related to their gender dysphoria. Although some clinicians might consider these diagnoses as a contraindication for a major medical procedure such as hormone therapy, frequently their symptoms are significantly alleviated by social and physical transition. Even major psychiatric disorders such as major depressive disorder and bipolar disorder are frequently “cured” when gender identity issues are addressed." - https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/home/topics/gender-dysphoria/is-it-just-a-phase-what-to-do-when-transgender-youths-ask-to-transition/

(Reference at the linked site)

[–]jacques1102 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And does that make it morally right?Why is it that when it comes to other mental illness that the cure is for the person to seek psychological help and not play into their delusion?I know a person that was obsessed with pokemon and was depressed about the fact that he wasn't born into the world.You know what made them happy?Making them a character and then deluding them into believing that they were apart of the world.Does that make it morally right even though the person was happy believing in his delusion?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I would say that stopping them being unhappy and in particular, killing themselves it does make it morally better.

It also implies that its not a delusion. If the treatment is works, it's likely that the diagnosis is correct. Delusions aren't a symptom of gender dysphoria.

I don't know how the pokemon disorder is best treated. It's unlikely to be related to gender dysphoria, so plausibly the best treatments would be unrelated.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"It also implies that it's not a delusion".How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.Does it make you more likely to be into feminine things?If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?Or does it show something else?Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?This is where i feel trans activist are trapped cause they can't do that,but then act like said stereotypes shouldn't define someone's womanhood.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?

There's lots of aspects to a person's sex. There's genitalia, which can be indeterminate. But the brain also different between men and women. When that's also indeterminate, or opposite to the genitalia, then you have a problem that can be diagnosed and treated. If you treat it with gender affirmation, you get much better outcomes, and you usually alleviate other psychiatric disorders that might be present.

The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.

We know what a female brain does. So the test is to ask the patient. You certainly have to do it over a period of time, and look for consistency.

If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?

No.

Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?

Again, the diagnosis is established by talking to the patient.