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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (6 children)
Quite the opposite. Hormone therapy and social transition generally resolves suicidal ideation, as well as other mental health issues.
"Transgender young people often present with severe depression, anxiety, and even suicidal ideation related to their gender dysphoria. Although some clinicians might consider these diagnoses as a contraindication for a major medical procedure such as hormone therapy, frequently their symptoms are significantly alleviated by social and physical transition. Even major psychiatric disorders such as major depressive disorder and bipolar disorder are frequently “cured” when gender identity issues are addressed." - https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/home/topics/gender-dysphoria/is-it-just-a-phase-what-to-do-when-transgender-youths-ask-to-transition/
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[–]jacques1102 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)
And does that make it morally right?Why is it that when it comes to other mental illness that the cure is for the person to seek psychological help and not play into their delusion?I know a person that was obsessed with pokemon and was depressed about the fact that he wasn't born into the world.You know what made them happy?Making them a character and then deluding them into believing that they were apart of the world.Does that make it morally right even though the person was happy believing in his delusion?
[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago* (2 children)
I would say that stopping them being unhappy and in particular, killing themselves it does make it morally better.
It also implies that its not a delusion. If the treatment is works, it's likely that the diagnosis is correct. Delusions aren't a symptom of gender dysphoria.
I don't know how the pokemon disorder is best treated. It's unlikely to be related to gender dysphoria, so plausibly the best treatments would be unrelated.
[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
"It also implies that it's not a delusion".How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.Does it make you more likely to be into feminine things?If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?Or does it show something else?Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?This is where i feel trans activist are trapped cause they can't do that,but then act like said stereotypes shouldn't define someone's womanhood.
[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?
There's lots of aspects to a person's sex. There's genitalia, which can be indeterminate. But the brain also different between men and women. When that's also indeterminate, or opposite to the genitalia, then you have a problem that can be diagnosed and treated. If you treat it with gender affirmation, you get much better outcomes, and you usually alleviate other psychiatric disorders that might be present.
The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.
We know what a female brain does. So the test is to ask the patient. You certainly have to do it over a period of time, and look for consistency.
If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?
No.
Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?
Again, the diagnosis is established by talking to the patient.
[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
Hormones and surgeries might work okay if you're FtM and don't have major problems with your genitals. Otherwise you're fucked because once you're male there's really no way to go back to female. If you're extremely lucky you can disguise yourself to look like it but that won't fix you on the inside.
What we really need is a way to prevent this, and for those already afflicted only very extreme treatments could work, like changing their gender or putting them in a different body.
[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
Jazz Jennings must be an outlier
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