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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

It's an agenda being pushed that warps science to fit its facts

No, it's just what he know about gender dysphoria. Nothing's being pushed.

Go check out r/detrans for starters.

No, I mean your specific claims. You've said "The fact is most of these trans identifying kids are obviously not trans, they're influenced by a social media fad and bad medical advice." What evidence do you have to support that, and what proportion do you mean by "most"?

It's when a person makes the transition from an autistic fag to a tranny.

Okay, what is an "autistic fag"?

Do you include transvestites in the term "tranny"?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Most of those kids end up detransing, and there's way too many of them (trans people are a tiny minority of the population). It comes from its current trendiness, and schools pressuring them to transition if they don't fit a stereotype. What they're really trying to do is recruit people for something corrupt politicians have hijacked and made into a political statement. Why do you think right-wing Christians hate LGBT people so much? It's because in 99% of cases it no longer has anything to do with being lesbian, gay, bisexual or trans (why that's even included among sexualities I don't know), it's become more of a statement that you align with radical leftist agendas and also that you hate Christianity. Most of the people who hate them used to support them, until they were made into this sort of identity politics.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Most of those kids end up detransing, and there's way too many of them (trans people are a tiny minority of the population).

I think you're mistaken about that "most of these kids" statistic. Certainly trans people are a tiny minority of the population. Maybe 0.7% of the population.

Still. There's about 1.4 million in the US alone, so you shouldn't be shocked to meet one, and certainly not to see a photo of one on reddit.

It comes from its current trendiness, and schools pressuring them to transition if they don't fit a stereotype.

That's very difficult to believe.

What they're really trying to do is recruit people for something corrupt politicians have hijacked and made into a political statement.

Batshit crazy grand conspiracy theories are even more difficult to believe.

Why do you think right-wing Christians hate LGBT people so much?

Studies show that Christians are more hateful to any out-group than atheists. Maybe it's fear of the devil in things they aren't familiar with.

Most of the people who hate them used to support them, until they were made into this sort of identity politics.

This, too, is very difficult to believe.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe 0.7% of the population.

Well if we get rid of all these gender role restrictions and anime fetishes it's probably more like 0.001% of the population. That's me, but I don't think I know a single other one. I know a few who think they are, but it's because it's their "identity" or because they watched too many traps in anime. That's clearly not the same thing. Another group only does it to join the community, which has become similar to things like furries. Most of them do not take hormones (or if they do, it's only so they can get tits and then they stop) and have completely normal behavior and sexuality for their natal sex. And they are usually literal Stalinists who have blind loyalty to the SJW movement and screech at anyone who misgenders them. Cis people get misgendered all the time, why don't they have the same reaction? Then there's all these weird pronouns as if people don't know which ones go with which gender, and completely made-up xenogenders that make us look like a joke. All they ever talk about is how they're trans, and horrifically, often they brag about how blessed they are to be so! Anyone who likes it obviously does not have this condition, or they would know how miserable and hopeless it is.

and certainly not to see a photo of one on reddit.

Why is it that they make up something like 95% of reddit mods? Surely they're not being influenced by their extreme SJW groupthink that says all cis white men are bad...but are they?

Batshit crazy grand conspiracy theories are even more difficult to believe.

It's not "batshit crazy", it's a fact. Don't tell me you haven't seen how the radical left has hijacked trans people and weaponized them, deceiving most of them into following their agenda. They're trying to recruit people through identity politics, plain and simple. Otherwise why would we even be relevant to politics?

Studies show that Christians are more hateful to any out-group than atheists. Maybe it's fear of the devil in things they aren't familiar with.

Or maybe it's because this radical agenda to destroy Christianity and infiltrate their opposition to it into everything else has made Christians frightened and angry. Fundamentalism is at an all-time high, because everything else is being painted as an enemy of God. And the more the radical anti-Christian left irritates them, the more radical they become to push back. If the same people who want to ban Christianity scream support for LGBT at the top of their lungs, what do you expect Christians to think? Of course they're now going to see LGBT as a threat, because their enemy supports it. If it weren't for this, I bet the majority of churches wouldn't have a problem with it anymore. But now they've flocked backwards and fled to 1950s gender roles because their persecutors are also persecuting that. Have you heard of the Streisand effect? The radical left is really asking for it. It's almost as if they want Christians to turn into the caricatures they've made them out to be so they can say, "See, look we need to get rid of them!". And unfortunately the bait is being swallowed.

This, too, is very difficult to believe.

I have seen countless people say "I used to support them, but the left changed my mind". Even irl people everywhere have become increasingly weary and hateful of anything the radical left associates with themselves, because everyone has had absolutely enough of it and they're ready to do anything it takes to fight it at this point. Three years ago no one was racist or sexist and few hated LGBT, some simply did not agree with it personally because of religious reasons, which is completely valid. Now they're somewhat afraid of black people and hard into 1950s gender roles and think LGBT people should receive the death penalty. And it's because the people claiming it for their movement are burning down entire cities and throwing tantrums on live TV about how everyone is a "bigot" and needs to be sent to the gulag for "hate speech", and saying religion should be banned because they're literal communists. Guilt by association.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well if we get rid of all these gender role restrictions and anime fetishes it's probably more like 0.001% of the population.

Really? I didn't know it was that small.

Not that the number matters. If they exist they should get the most appropriate treatment.

It's not "batshit crazy", it's a fact.

We might have to agree to disagree on that "fact".

Politicians are interested in getting reelected. They're the best that each electoral division can produce of such a person. With the exception of supporting very profitable businesses that will donate large amounts of money for advertising, the agendas are pretty straightforward. There's no grand conspiracy to produce trans people. Even if you could produce them.

And the more the radical anti-Christian left irritates them, the more radical they become to push back.

Suspect that the more they see their influence in the world diminish the more they seek influence in the country increased. And that second influence is causing the anti-christian movement.

If the same people who want to ban Christianity scream support for LGBT at the top of their lungs, what do you expect Christians to think?

Many will fear and hate them. But the reason that LGBT supporting community hates fundies is because their little bible makes them anti-gay.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020%3A13&version=NLT

I don't know why they take that bit particularly to heart, except that christianity breeds hatefulness. They're happy to ignore "Do not trim off the hair on your temples or trim your beards" from the chapter before.

And even the "Anyone who dishonors father or mother must be put to death. Such a person is guilty of a capital offense" from the same chapter isn't pursued with any vigour.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because the biggest enemies who are doing everything they can to destroy Christianity are the same ones who most staunchly proclaim LGBTQIAFPABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+. Christians weren't hateful before all this madness made them go mad. Now they are willing to do whatever it takes to exterminate the threat, and if in the process they attack innocent people because of guilt by association, so be it. Otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to produce fake translations of the Bible as an excuse to persecute certain people.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because the biggest enemies who are doing everything they can to destroy Christianity are the same ones who most staunchly proclaim LGBTQIAFPABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+.

Nah, the christians have been whipped into a frenzied bloodlust by people making money by gather an audience claiming "war on christmas" and all sorts of shit like that. The only think that might destroy christianity is if people read their bibles. Us atheists really don't give a shit what religion people are.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They would be especially disgusted by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More so than Muslims? I'd like to see your 'studies'

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. More so than atheists.

There's very little difference between the Muslim and Christian beliefs.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's def pushed.

https://segm.org/GIDS-puberty-blockers-minors-the-times-special-report

Entwistle was astonished when her clinical partner cited a female patient’s early love of Thomas the Tank Engine as evidence she should be referred to endocrinology. “This girl was horribly bullied and called a ‘dyke’,” she says. “It blew my mind that a toy was used as evidence for medical transition. My partner said, ‘Oh, but she hates her periods.’ I said, ‘But so do many girls.’ ” This patient was not referred and later, at sixth form where she ceased being bullied, told GIDS her dysphoria was resolved. “Yet she could easily have been put on a medical pathway,” says Entwistle

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

SEGM have an agenda.

I don't know anything about the anecdote in question, but it's an anecdote. It's neither data nor policy.

[–]Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's an article from the times that they've archived, the clinic in question is having over 1000 families suing it for shit like this. 1000 families. That's more than just an anecdote.

https://www.medscape.co.uk/viewarticle/1000-families-sue-tavistock-gender-service-2022a10021ac

Accept that it's pushed. If it wasn't they wouldn't be being sued by that many people for PUSHING it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No, it's just what he know about gender dysphoria. Nothing's being pushed.

I'm telling you it's bullshit, like the other bullshit narratives I mentioned. Come on man, develop your critical thinking. Don't trust the official bullshit, it's hurting kids.

what proportion do you mean by "most"?

It's defined as "greatest in number."

Do you include transvestites in the term "tranny"?

It's just a negative term. Celebrating deviancy is not a fantastic idea, that's how we end up with kids aspiring to adopt identities they do not actually have.

Okay, what is an "autistic fag"?

It's literally what it sounds like. Autism + homosexuality. Read r/detrans, see what your bullshit is causing.

What evidence do you have to support that,

My thinking comes from my niece and her friend group and her experiences with the overall student body and then overall interactions online. You can call that a sample group. These are my conclusions from observing their behavior. You can read whatever you want and say, look this article says this so it must be true, but I can't ignore what's right in front of me.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm telling you it's bullshit, like the other bullshit narratives I mentioned.

I'll take on board that that's your opinion.

But the evidence is that you're wrong about that.

It's defined as "greatest in number."

And in this case, what is that number?

It's just a negative term. Celebrating deviancy is not a fantastic idea, that's how we end up with kids aspiring to adopt identities they do not actually have.

Suspect you're wrong about that causes of transexualism.

It's literally what it sounds like. Autism + homosexuality. R

Would you consider yourself and autistic fag?

These are my conclusions from observing their behavior.

I question your ability to make sound conclusions from your observations.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

And in this case, what is that number?

That's not how that works person who may just be yet another socks account.

Would you consider yourself and autistic fag?

I have been called autistic. I've never been diagnosed as such. Fag? Well, I mean, ten years in prison without women, and I'll learn to love the cock.

I question your ability to make sound conclusions from your observations.

Watch the shit I call and how it comes out true. You don't have to take my word for it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I have been called autistic. I've never been diagnosed as such.

I wondered, you seem to be a little weaker than most people on empathy. Not that that's a general symptom of autism, it does seem to affect some people on the spectrum.

Fag? Well, I mean, ten years in prison without women, and I'll learn to love the cock.

I wondered. You seem a little hateful of homosexuals in your posts, and in most cases that hate is born of repressed sexuality.

You don't have to take my word for it.

Indeed I haven't.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Everything you said as usual is wrong.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'll take on board that that's your opinion.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's just so off the mark. I feel too much, not too little. Also, you're one of the people with Sock's ideologies, I don't know you're not just an alt. Everyone on the short bus is suspect so to speak.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I feel too much, not too little.

No mate, you don't.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes, you know how I feel better than I do. As I said, short bus.