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[–]LtGreenCo 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Any ethical physician, on principle, should absolutely refuse to treat any otherwise healthy patients seeking dangerous and life-altering surgeries or drugs with no real necessity to do so. Such a patient is not exhibiting the behavior of a rational individual.

Sorry but "give me what I want or I'll commit suicide" isn't a good justification for anything and the industry that's sprung up around this idea needs to be shut down.

[–]iamonlyoneman 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Better than that: "give me what i want or else I'll commit suicide" has always been regarded as a tactic of abusers, but what is not okay for a boyfriend to say is okay for a patient or child to say now, because gender.

[–]ElectricSheep 6 insightful - 10 fun6 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

But is it really suicide if you are the one literally murdering them with your words? Checkmate shitlord.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some GPs only care about their paycheck though, so much so that they'll greenlit life-altering troon surgeries for clearly mentally ill people as long as they pay.

Hell, even in the cases where the GPs refuse to give in, the troons just hop from doctor to doctor until one doesn't give enough of a shit to give them the prescription for HRT.

[–]Haylstorm 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ahh yes. Then you'll whine to the doctor because it turns out you're 15 and just having teenage hormones make you hate your body but nooooo you were right.

Fucking idiots. Work on your actual issues first. So many of these people just end up being autistic or gay and pushing for things like this rather than giving them a safe environment to work out their feelings and support them rather than push for jumping straight to medical care.

[–]jet199[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A hell of a lot of the girls have been abused as kids and that is not being investigated because trans is used for a cover for their strange behaviour.

[–]Haylstorm 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't even need to go that far.

https://segm.org/GIDS-puberty-blockers-minors-the-times-special-report

There's a girl in there who they called trans and recommended treatment. The reason? She liked Thomas the tank engine and hated periods. Yeah turns out she was just gay and bullied. Especially when you note the line in there that when the bullying stopped so did the dysphoria.

Therapy is needed because you can be very sure about things when you're sick. Suicidal people want to kill themselves, should we complain that doctors want to give them therapy/medication rather than just handing them a knife and telling them to go for it? Just because you're sure about it doesn't mean you're right, you'll just do something you might regret.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uh-huh, yeah, and how many detransitioners are now suing because they did exactly this, and their doctors took them at their word?

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    [–]notafed 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I ended up seeking help because I was so wound up I couldn't function. "Severe anxiety". One prescription later and I function normally.

    [–]jet199[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Why are you anxious though?

    [–]notafed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's a bit complicated, but I do have some unresolved issues I'm working on.

    [–]FourteenDigitz 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Clinical anxiety doesn’t have a simple “why”

    [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    But a shitty idea for people who want to cut their dicks off because the internet told them to.

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      [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      I guess I don't care. I have no mangina in that game.

      [–]PopsicleToes 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      The former Tavistock Clinic would like a word about bypassing mental health treatment before transitioning people they barely have interviewed.

      [–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      No no they interviewed them! Their standards for trans were just... You like Thomas the tank engine and hate periods? Trans!

      Absolutely pathetic by them.

      [–]IMissPorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Mixed feeling on that one. It's totally rational to avoid mental health professionals given how they can have you locked up just because the feel like it etc. You'd literally have to be insane to deal with people like that. On the other hand, trans people are insane, and might be better served by the equally crazy mental health people. It's a tough one.

      [–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I mean I think it's better to talk through/resolve other issues before committing to something major like changing your body. Some problems can manifest like that and will resolve when that issue is resolved. If you're getting treatment for something that isn't your actual issue? It's not going to help you.

      [–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I agree. But I can't fault anyone, trans or otherwise, for not trusting them.

      [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I don't know what novaramedia is, but this is essentially the promotion of rope therapy as an alternative.

      [–]FourteenDigitz 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Keep things simple: demand drugs

      Oh yes yes yes, very simple indeed.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I can't even get Haldol and im freaking the fuck out. Shit sucks.

      Sorry about professing my love for you. I'm kind of going insane and I don't mean to. I don't mean to be insane that is.

      I do think you deserve to be told you are admired, but maybe with less baggage would be nice i bet.