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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

What's particularly funny about the yaoi stuff is how many women will try to downplay (or even straight up deny) that other women are a significant number (if not the actual majority) of the people making and consuming it.

Equally funny is how many of those women--the ones producing and consuming the yaoi--have no problem objectifying two (or more) male characters like that, but lose their shit at a female character being portrayed in a sexually appealing manner.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

You put it very well. I had a misfortune of getting across a few yaoi fangirls in my life - they loved it out online but I don’t know if they ever discussed the dynamics of that genre and who’s the audience.

I was also wondering if there’s another factor to it (beside casual porn brain): some women buy into propaganda that hetero relationships are more abusive from their sole nature, that heterosexual pairs are highly sexualized, “bland”, belong to the “problematic” world etc. ... So they assume gays are pure cinnamon rolls who need to be protected and fangirls over. Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people. That being said, one of the yaoi fans I came across was a lesbian herself, other wasn’t but later trooned out to FtM. There is this whole correlation among some trans people, mostly FtM and non-binaries who started as yaoi fangirls.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people

I have seen a theory similar to this. That the large amount of abuse in BL/yaoi is essentially because they can get away with it. People won't lose their shit over a dude hitting another guy, but they would if it was a man hitting a woman. Therefore, to avoid the shit-storm, yaoi/BL fangirls use that. Notice how in yaoi, most of the submissive male characters are pretty feminine looking? Alongside having stereotypical female personality traits? That's why.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think I often heard of that theory before but that makes a lot of sense.