Queer literature, SJW & Tumblr culture and the readers who praise that

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    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Same, I thought YA was cringe on its own but then it got fusion with the queers.

    It comes from some interview with author (however, it’s in Spanish): https://www.ecartelera.com/noticias/entrevista-andre-aciman-call-me-by-your-name-54563/

    People discussing it on some forum (I don’t know this forum but it contains English translation of the interview fragment): https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/307200-cmbyn-author-admits-to-pedophilic-ideations/

    The other day I was talking with a friend of mine, I said to him ‘I look at 12 year old girls and I find them very attractive’, and he said to me, ‘me too, but you can’t speak of it’. And I responded, ‘no, never’. Because if you think of it you’re almost guilty of it. I don’t commit the act, but you don’t have an idea of the rugged and disgusting things that go through everyone’s minds. - Andre Aciman

    Actually, even a few woke people wrote about being disgusted by him on Twitter, like here: https://twitter.com/clowlwn/status/1365016781400678401 However, it’s still a minority within minority and his novel is still kind of popular - thanks to the movie and appeal of gays to many women.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Actually, even a few woke people wrote about being disgusted by him on Twitter, like here: https://twitter.com/clowlwn/status/1365016781400678401

    A lot of people called out the age difference between both protagonists at the time, including the ones who liked the book/movie, so this is no surprise at all.

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    Did they? Pederasty is par for the course.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Pederasty is par for the course.

    Traditionally, most pederasts were actually married to women and had children of their own.

    Let's also not forget that the age of the two protagonists in the movie are 17 and 24 respectively.

    A lot of classical Shakespeare plays had way more questionable aged couples on scene, by the way.

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    Traditionally, most pederasts were actually married to women and had children of their own.

    It's possible. This idea that there are people who are "gay" is a very recent invention.

    Let's also not forget that the age of the two protagonists in the movie are 17 and 24 respectively.

    Pederasty describes a certain dynamic, which may or may not be illegal, depending on the circumstances. The relationship between Stephen Fry and his husband is paederastic in nature, even though they're not technically breaking any laws.

    A lot of classical Shakespeare plays had way more questionable aged couples on scene, by the way.

    Which ones do you mean? The only one I'm aware of is Romeo and Juliet (who are usually understood to be 16 and 13). She might be younger, but the age gap is less than half of the size as the one in CMBYN.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's possible. This idea that there are people who are "gay" is a very recent invention.

    Exacly.

    Ancient societies didn't classify people based on who they sleept with. This is all a very recent thing. But still, most pederasts didn't see same-sex adult relationships in the best light.

    Pederasty describes a certain dynamic, which may or may not be illegal, depending on the circumstances.

    I like to be precise with the language I use.

    If we're talking about ancient Rome or Greece then you'd have a point, but in the context of modern society pederasty is equated with pedophilia, a crime.

    Which ones do you mean?

    As Shakespeare rarely specified the exact age of most of his characters, but it wasn't rare for underaged actors to be paired with adult actors.