Queer literature, SJW & Tumblr culture and the readers who praise that

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

What's particularly funny about the yaoi stuff is how many women will try to downplay (or even straight up deny) that other women are a significant number (if not the actual majority) of the people making and consuming it.

Equally funny is how many of those women--the ones producing and consuming the yaoi--have no problem objectifying two (or more) male characters like that, but lose their shit at a female character being portrayed in a sexually appealing manner.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

You put it very well. I had a misfortune of getting across a few yaoi fangirls in my life - they loved it out online but I don’t know if they ever discussed the dynamics of that genre and who’s the audience.

I was also wondering if there’s another factor to it (beside casual porn brain): some women buy into propaganda that hetero relationships are more abusive from their sole nature, that heterosexual pairs are highly sexualized, “bland”, belong to the “problematic” world etc. ... So they assume gays are pure cinnamon rolls who need to be protected and fangirls over. Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people. That being said, one of the yaoi fans I came across was a lesbian herself, other wasn’t but later trooned out to FtM. There is this whole correlation among some trans people, mostly FtM and non-binaries who started as yaoi fangirls.

[–]LyingSpirit472 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people.

Well, the first part of "portrayed as an attractive chad" explains it. You don't see yaoi fangirls consuming bara or bear content; that stuff would scare them. Yaoi fangirls want their yaoi to be two attractive chad-types fucking each other. They're the woman equivalent of the guy who only watches lesbian porn, and they both have the same logic of "it's two hot people I want to see fuck, with no person of my gender in it so I don't have to see someone hook up with someone I can never get; instead I can just imagine they're revving themselves up for me."

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people

I have seen a theory similar to this. That the large amount of abuse in BL/yaoi is essentially because they can get away with it. People won't lose their shit over a dude hitting another guy, but they would if it was a man hitting a woman. Therefore, to avoid the shit-storm, yaoi/BL fangirls use that. Notice how in yaoi, most of the submissive male characters are pretty feminine looking? Alongside having stereotypical female personality traits? That's why.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think I often heard of that theory before but that makes a lot of sense.

[–]BioEssentialism 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Equally funny is how many of those women--the ones producing and consuming the yaoi--have no problem objectifying two (or more) male characters like that, but lose their shit at a female character being portrayed in a sexually appealing manner.

Not anymore, due to the Oppression Olympics and Intersectionality straight cis women are now considered almost as bad as straight cis men (especially if they’re white), which means it’s now open season for antis to shame and degrade them for “fetishization” because didn’t you know gay men are higher up in the victimization-tier rung?

smh, learn your SJW Oppression Hierarchies bigot! /s

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straight cis women are now considered almost as bad as straight cis men

If you read some of the female detransition stories (ie, Helena Kerschner), this is actually cited as one of the reasons why a lot of them transition in the first place. No one wants to be a boring cis girl! That's so basic, being the oppressor like that 🙄

[–]Giant-Blue-Catfish 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yaoi fangirls are everywhere nowadays and they have gained way too much leeway from the “Queer” community to do their creepy shit