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[–]BioEssentialism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How does Israel do that? It's actually the other way around for the most part.

Didn’t you whole-ass guilt trip the entire world at the U.N. using the Holocaust card?

Jews didn't demand and pout, we bought land, settled on it, built and farmed, and fought for it.

Yet you still went to the U.N. and demanded they officially sanction your safe-space state.

Jews tried having those kinds of places. It didn't work out well, including under Arab/Muslim rule. Over half of Israeli Jews have ancestry from the Jewish communities of the Islamic world. There used to be hundreds of thousands of Jews living in places like Morocco and Iraq. The historic Jewish community of what is now Israel also didn't thrive to well. Nope, not ever going to live under Arab rule again.

Y’all ever heard about America? Jews, like all other minorities have never had it better here and it’s the White Christians who are currently at a disadvantage.

Aside from that, we wanted our own nation, just like the Irish fought for theirs in 1916.

The difference between you and Ireland is that Ireland was an already existing state, Israel is currently the world’s youngest country, not even 80 years old yet. Also Ireland doesn’t have laws prohibiting the demographic growth of other ethnicities, no other country does besides Israel so you really can’t compare the two.

the sheer glory of reversing the Roman destruction of Judea and having once again independence and sovereignty in the historic homeland is amazing.

“WE WUZ SOVEREIGN ISRAELITES AND SHIT~!“ And how many years ago did that happen? More than two thousand correct? At some point one’s nation automatically forfeits all rights on a piece of land depending on how much time has passed. And again you’ve just proven to me that this is all based in woke-shit, after all you don’t see the Native Americans clamoring to take back America from the Whiteys except for the most fringe left of indigenous rights groups. What makes your people so special that you think you have that right when the Native Americans don’t care? (Then again Native Americans have yet to have the million dollar corporation backing that woke movements such as Zionism and BLM have accumulated so maybe that’s the difference)

Also if you wanna get really technical Jews as a people aren’t even indigenous to Israel, the Torah literally states how you all came to the land and inflicted mass genocide on the actual indigenous Israelites, the Canaanites. The actual area you’re indigenous to is Iraq, just as a little FYI.

People like you just prove why we need it, I'd hate to live in a country where people like you are a majority. But lots of people live in nations like that.

Why? Because I refuse to check my privilege and rightfully point out how minorities such as yourselves need to stop being little bitch-babies and cry “RACISM!” or “ANTISEMITISM!” at every little slight? Where in this conversation have I begun hurling slurs at you, advocating for hate crimes and Jews civil rights to be stripped or claiming Hitler was right and you all should be gassed? All I said was that you minorities need to grow up and stop blaming all your problems on the white cis straight gentile majority and actually learn to co-exist with us rather than self-segregating yourselves away into your little safe spaces/ghettos.

The fact that you took my comment advocating for an assimilated color-blind/religion-blind pluralistic society as literal hate speech really goes to prove my point on how much woke shit has poisoned your mind - because that’s your brain on wokeness, suddenly you start reading between the lines, misinterpreting everything and thinking everyone is out to you, and it’s all one giant conspiracy to keep down the “poor oppressed minorities.” This is some Q-anon tier shit, actually even worse than Q-anon because your movements are actually socially sanctioned and being shoved down the public’s throat in schools.

Why do Swedes live in a majority ethnically Swedish nation?

AHAHAHAHA, The very definition of “tell me you haven’t been to Europe without telling me you haven’t been to Europe” the post!

My man, have you seen Western/Northern Europe lately? They have as much of a migrant problem as we Americans have with our Southern border, Sweden is practically an Islamic country by now and immigrant populations are far outpacing the the population rates of ethnic Europeans.

Or we can just have a place where we are the majority rather than accepting perpetual minority status. Why don't you accept eternal minority status and suck it up and assimilate into another culture?

Whites actually are soon on track to being a demographic minority in both Europe and America, the non-MAGAtard ones don’t care though because we don’t go around thinking about race and racial power dynamics 24/7 like both the alt-right and alt-left do.

And funny thing, you keep going on about how woke we are yet Israeli society is far less woke than most Western societies are.

It looks like we’re operating on two entirely different definitions of woke. Woke is more than just liberal LGBTBQQ rights shit, in fact if there’s anyone the Wokesters despise more than the privileged it’s the liberals, who they frequently eat mercilessly for breakfast if they dare to deny their Power Dynamics Obsessed Mcarthyist-tier thinking.

To me Wokeness = The perception of being oppressed and that someone higher up on a perceived hierarchy of power + privilege is out to get you.

It’s specifically Conspiratorial-like thinking, where do you think the term even came from or is alluding to? “Woke” as in “To Wake Up to the structures in society that are out to oppress you.”

And it’s not even exclusive to the far-left either, the alt-right also plenty engages in their fare share of woke-itis what with their fucking retarded “Great Replacement Theories” and what-not.

Considering Israel/Zionism was literally founded on the idea of the “goyim oppressing the Jews,” yes, it is in fact the very definition of Critical Race Theory-tier Woketard shit.

[–]AkbarZip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Didn’t you whole-ass guilt trip the entire world at the U.N. using the Holocaust card?

No, the Zionist project goes back to the 1880s. Tel Aviv was founded in 1909. The conflict has its origins in the 1920s and really took off in the 1930s. There were already hundreds of thousands of Jews living in this land before World War II. After the war, the British imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration and wanted to be friendlier to the Arabs, so Jewish resistance groups bombed them out in a guerrilla war. Then the UN issued a non-binding recommendation for partition which gave an air of legitimacy but it was never actually implemented, we fought the Arabs in a civil war as the British left and then the newly declared State of Israel faced multiple Arab nations while under Western arms embargo, relying on domestic arms production and smuggling networks from Europe and the USA.

Yet you still went to the U.N. and demanded they officially sanction your safe-space state.

Just like a lot of other peoples broke away to create their "safe space." In any case as I said the UN role was rather limited in comparison to what you think it was. We did the hard work of building and fighting.

Y’all ever heard about America? Jews, like all other minorities have never had it better here and it’s the White Christians who are currently at a disadvantage.

Jews at one time never had it better than Poland, which was called the "Jewish paradise". Germany was a really nice place to be Jewish as well. Also, in America Jews were not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods and universities had quotas on Jewish students up to the 1960s. Jewish immigration was also officially limited by law until 1965.

Oh and even today when Jews have full civil rights there are still lots of hate crimes.

The difference between you and Ireland is that Ireland was an already existing state, Israel is currently the world’s youngest country, not even 80 years old yet. Also Ireland doesn’t have laws prohibiting the demographic growth of other ethnicities, no other country does besides Israel so you really can’t compare the two.

Ireland as an independent state dates back to 1931. If you mean the society and culture, the Yishuv, or pre-state Jewish pioneering society, was already decades old by that point. It's roots go back to the early 1880s when significiant Jewish immigration and settlement building and the revival of Hebrew really took off. Of course, there had always been a Jewish population present, the Old Yishuv, or pre-Zionist Jewish population, was about 20k in 1880. But in any event by 1948 there were about 600k or so Jews in Mandate Palestine, about 40% of whom had been born there.

“WE WUZ SOVEREIGN ISRAELITES AND SHIT~!“ And how many years ago did that happen? More than two thousand correct? At some point one’s nation automatically forfeits all rights on a piece of land depending on how much time has passed. And again you’ve just proven to me that this is all based in woke-shit, after all you don’t see the Native Americans clamoring to take back America from the Whiteys except for the most fringe left of indigenous rights groups. What makes your people so special that you think you have that right when the Native Americans don’t care? (Then again Native Americans have yet to have the million dollar corporation backing that woke movements such as Zionism and BLM have accumulated so maybe that’s the difference)

Interesting, so if I understand correctly, the Palestinians will lose their claim too? That's great! All we have to do is wait a while longer and we'll be legitimate in your eyes!

Also, the last sovereign Jewish state in this land was over a thousand years ago, the Sassanid Jewish Commonwealth under Nehemiah Ben Hushiel, although it was really a Persian client state during a Byzantine-Persian war. A Jewish population of up to hundreds of thousands was present into the Middle Ages. But regardless, we legitimately bought land from the late 19th century onwards and settled it. By 1948 the Zionist project was three generations old already. That was the backbone of our claim.

Also if you wanna get really technical Jews as a people aren’t even indigenous to Israel, the Torah literally states how you all came to the land and inflicted mass genocide on the actual indigenous Israelites, the Canaanites. The actual area you’re indigenous to is Iraq, just as a little FYI.

LOL as if I haven't heard that argument before. Look, you can see if from either two ways. Either the Torah is wrong in which case we're an outgrowth of indigenous Canaanite culture as many believe, or the Torah is right and God, the master and creator of the universe, says this land is ours, in which case any competing arguments are invalid.

Why? Because I refuse to check my privilege and rightfully point out how minorities such as yourselves need to stop being little bitch-babies and cry “RACISM!” or “ANTISEMITISM!” at every little slight? Where in this conversation have I begun hurling slurs at you, advocating for hate crimes and Jews civil rights to be stripped or claiming Hitler was right and you all should be gassed? All I said was that you minorities need to grow up and stop blaming all your problems on the white cis straight gentile majority and actually learn to co-exist with us rather than self-segregating yourselves away into your little safe spaces/ghettos.

Why specifically us? Why don't you demand the Chinese people or Nigerians come and co-exist with you rather than self-segregating in their safe spaces? We're just fine where we are, thank you very much. Maybe Israeli Jews actually like living this way and don't see any reason to leave.

The fact that you took my comment advocating for an assimilated color-blind/religion-blind pluralistic society as literal hate speech really goes to prove my point on how much woke shit has poisoned your mind - because that’s your brain on wokeness, suddenly you start reading between the lines, misinterpreting everything and thinking everyone is out to you, and it’s all one giant conspiracy to keep down the “poor oppressed minorities.” This is some Q-anon tier shit, actually even worse than Q-anon because your movements are actually socially sanctioned and being shoved down the public’s throat in schools.

"Assimilated", what exactly do you mean by that? Why should we assimilate into another culture? Why don't you go try assimilating into someone else's culture first?

My man, have you seen Western/Northern Europe lately? They have as much of a migrant problem as we Americans have with our Southern border, Sweden is practically an Islamic country by now and immigrant populations are far outpacing the the population rates of ethnic Europeans.

Immigrant populations aren't close to a majority. And in a few generations their fertility rates will match the rest of the population.

Whites actually are soon on track to being a demographic minority in both Europe and America, the non-MAGAtard ones don’t care though because we don’t go around thinking about race and racial power dynamics 24/7 like both the alt-right and alt-left do.

Nah, not really, whites will never be a minority in Europe and in the US what's "white" is malleable, one day many Hispanics may end up getting reclassified as "white."

Considering Israel/Zionism was literally founded on the idea of the “goyim oppressing the Jews,” yes, it is in fact the very definition of Critical Race Theory-tier Woketard shit.

Except that oppression was very real. "Woke" oppression is invented bullshit, the oppression facing Jews actually happened. Jews today are still disproportionate targets of hate crimes even if the state-sanctioned oppression in the West no longer exists. But beyond that it's a glorious nationalist project of shaping a country around our nation and culture.