SANITY[Sanity] NHS to close Tavistock child gender identity clinic. The UK is waking up.

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[–]beerghal 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This coupled with Maya Forstater and Alison baileys wins in court is a good sign 🙌 hopefully this signals an end of the gender nonsense

[–]bife_de_lomo 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Unfortunately it's not the end, the Tavistock is being replaced with a network of local centres with an aim to reduce waiting times.

[–]jet199 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

But focusing on mental health rather than physical transition.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's what they say. Let's see what they actually do.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it is a signal that the tide is turning in the UK. Places like the US and especially Canada have some ways to go. At least in the US, the bid for Lia Thomas' woman of the year nomination has ended, so that's another mark of sanity at least. Out of the three countries, Canada definitely seems to be the most far gone.

I think we still have a long way to go to ending gender nonsense, but this is a good sign that the tide actually might be turning somewhat. There are other signs of pushback against wokeness too. Here in the US, a university just pushed back against a student petition to ban Clarence Thomas from speaking at a law seminar, which is the first instance I've heard of a university pushing back against the woke student mob like this. Hopefully more to follow.

[–]HiddenFox 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

As long a Little Castro remains PM of Canada the wokeness will continue full steam ahead. He holds nothing but contempt for anyone who thinks differently then him. Like he said about people who refused to get a COVID shot.

And we have to make a choice, in terms of leaders, in terms of the country. Do we tolerate these people? -Justin Trudeau, Sep. 16, 2021

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that man is a total piece of shit.

[–]Datachost 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think in terms of the society at large in the UK the outcome of the Bailey case will have a larger effect, and here's why: Yes, the charges against Stonewall were dropped, but effectively on a technicality. Basically the reasoning was, GCC didn't have to take their advice. But that's their whole raison d'etre right now, handing out advice on how best to comply with equality law, especially pertaining to gender, their whole thing is going above and beyond what the EHRC recommends. But as the judgement stated, in going above and beyond in one area you risk violating the law in another area, that's the problem with equality law, it's a delicate scale in a good number of areas. So what exactly do Stonewall do for businesses? If their advice leaves the business open to litigation and after the fact they're just going to shrug and say "Well you didn't have to follow our advice", why should businesses pay them in the first place? I honestly think the Bailey case was destined to be a PR disaster for them, win or lose, as soon as it was determined she was allowed to go ahead with it, because either way it suggested there was some legitimacy to the claim Stonewall were handing out incorrect advice pertaining to equality law

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, exactly. The future implications for this case are huge.