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[–]Horror-Swordfish 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I get you - I don't really know Italian culture or the makeup of the population of the country. I think you may be reading my remarks as a criticism of the culture, but they really weren't. Just because I said "it's strange" doesn't mean I think anything in particular is wrong, I just think it's strange. I'm sure there are plenty of things about American culture that you find strange but I wouldn't think that means you think American culture is wrong.

What I'm saying is that, if you are going to have a global platform, it's at least worth considering how things might look to everyone that would be viewing your work. To an American, what's happening is objectively blackface. I personally think that blackface needs to have some element of malice to it, which this situation obviously doesn't, but I can see why Americans would look at that and say, "That's blackface."

I notice that you didn't bother to quote the second part of my comment, where I said I completely understand the viewpoint of the festival people and actually agree with their assessment of the situation and their reasoning behind the casting and makeup choices. It's an opera that's historically been done a certain way and they are showing that particular version. It's not a big deal to me. But I appreciate that the festival reps gave a thoughtful response rather than just "spare us your American 'sensitivity' ... GTFO."

Understanding why people think one way is different from supporting that viewpoint, and the festival reps gave a response that would hopefully help people understand their viewpoint rather than just saying "suck it assholes, I don't care what you think." That sort of thing only serves to keep people divided and hating each other.

[–]exiled_from_reddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response. However no matter how conciliatory you are, you unfortunately fail to grasp that some non Americans are really, really tired of your cultural imperialism.

I'm sure there are plenty of things about American culture that you find strange but I wouldn't think that means you think American culture is wrong.

Yes. But even when I think it's clearly wrong the crucial thing is I'm not travelling to let's say Dallas to enlighten local population about the moral wrongness of their ways. I'm not in charge of some of Dallas media. And I'm definitely not sponsoring local Dallas residents to promote changing the Texans ways of life.

Yet that's definitely what happens in the other direction. The situation here is completely asymmetrical, you feel the opera owes you explanation why their scenic make up looks the way it looks. It doesn't. And you are completely not interested in explaining yourselves why you try to push your views on Europe.

The opera indeed unfortunately gave the thoughtful response, while 'GTFO' was a preferable one.

If you don't like the idea of being sent to hell over the issue, and you really want to stick your concept of 'blackface' up our ass, then we are at least fully in right to proselytise how deeply retarded it is.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The opera indeed unfortunately gave the thoughtful response, while 'GTFO' was a preferable one.

Based

Got to agree on the general sentiment. Americans believe they have this self-appointed right to moralize and correct cultures in other parts of the world, when they have barely a culture of their own.

[–]Jewishnigger 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Mm