TRANSGENDERGroomer grooms her kid, and is surprised that the grooming works Or How I wish I hadn’t given my 7-year old books that confused her about her sex by glamourising transgenderism Or So it turns out that I don’t have Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy after all!

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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

Tl;dr…

Mother buys 7-year old daughter selection of pro-trans books for Christmas and brags about it online - “Lookatme, I’m an Ally! And I’m raising my kid as one too!”.

Cut to a couple months later daughter is now identifying as a boy, mother not happy.

Oh and of course she faces the backlash for daring to question the validity of 7-year old’s self-identification.

Damn, a better thread title would have been: When virtue signalling backfires.

[–]Haylstorm 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Almost like dad was right. Ally doesn't mean supportive anymore, it means bow to all our whims or you're not an ally. Poor kid though.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Have you noticed the use of the word “kiddo” when referring to children. Seems really common amongst groomers.

[–]iamonlyoneman 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

also among normal people. Not everything is grooming.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn’t mean it was unique to groomers, just noticed that they tend to use it to refer to other people’s children whereas I’ve only ever heard parents use it to refer to their own children.

[–]Haylstorm 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's one of those words that seems a bit off at times. Same with pupper and doggo. They sound like someone is trying to sound younger than they are and idk it's internet speak but certain people using it makes it weird.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yep, it's a sign people are playing a part.

Could be for good or bad reasons.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Like it's not bad on it's own, but certain people/contexts using it just sets me a bit on edge.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The paediatrician in “What is a woman?” uses “kiddo” during her interview and it totally squicked me out (she’s talking about children’s bodies changing during puberty and refers to them as kiddos🤮), but also came across as very unprofessional.

[–]Haylstorm 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's just weird. Just say children or child. Like I wouldn't want someone treating me talking like that. I wouldn't want her treating a child of mine. Not that I have children.

Honestly when it's deliberate like that it just makes me really uncomfortable. Not to mention it sounds like she's just brainwashing kids rather than doing something to help. She's supposed to protect children. She's completely nuts. Ignoring reality. It's going to cause harm.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also used by the distant mother in We Need to Talk about Kevin.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think I've ever used it except to mock people in a condescending way. Usually adults for acting like children. Or teens they hate it. "Your curfew is unfair because your parents won't let you stay out all night? Oh no kiddo how terrible for you, guess you'll have to go to bed early and study instead of delinquency with your friends, how horrible for you."

I think that's why it bothers me here. They seem like they're totally condescending to the kids issues, ah of course you're a man now and your name is Jake. I got ya kiddo. Just get your parents credit card for these hormones and cosmetic surgery that you absolutely need to make you happy and I'll tell the parents you're going to kill yourself if they don't pay.

It just feels to scummy to me. But then again I feel the same way about shrinks in general, people don't need to pay some stranger to give them life advice, they need friends and family.

Kids don't need some gender specialist to guide them through the pitfalls of puberty, they need friends and family.

I wonder sometimes if this isn't a eugenics project to sterilize the undesirables like we had back 100 or more years ago, but it mostly seems to be affecting affluent rich liberal types.

[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While you're right, this is closer to "you'll never know what you REALLY think of a minority group until it's at your doorstep."

That can also go both ways, both "the super-Woke ally who can't stand that their own child is in the group" or "the uber- -ist or -phobic person who changes their ways after a family member is in the group."

[–]TotoroDeams 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I absolutely hate the whole gender = color shit. I am a grown ass adult male and my favorite colors are Purple, Pink and Green.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's not really normal for grown ass adults to still have favourite colours.

[–]Metaright 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're off on this. What's wrong with having favorite colors?

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 10 insightful - 10 fun10 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 10 fun -  (9 children)

This is literally the worst thing a parent can do. How dare this hole having breed bleeder not encourage xirs child to transition!. I am mortified at how the indoctrination of hate imposed on us all by the cis heteronormative neurotypical bioessentialist patriarchy. The rapid shifting of the established paradigm in an attempt to desynergize what has been cultivated through the last two decades of the enlightenment instilled in us from a growing understanding of intersectionality

The problematic attempts of the neo fascistic western capitalistic hegemony is perpetuating a continual assault on marginalized communities so they can abolish the queer identity and exacerbate the literal genocide currently taking place against the most vulnerable individuals. The danger being faced by trans folx every day is indicative of the systemic oppression regularly used to disenfranchise neurodivergent beings.

Unless we come together and subvert the covertly overt attempts to silence our voices we will continue to be routinely transgressed to our own detriment. The only solution I can see is for us to abolish parents. If we erase the nuclear family and require all children become property of the state we can push back against the rising tides of injustice.

I know this sounds difficult but it is possible. However you all need to take a step back to analyze all of your traumas. then begin the process of unpacking the deeply rooted biases that have ingrained themselves in you. Once we have achieved this we can begin proactively committing peaceful acts of self defense against those who would criticize us in an effort to cause harm.

I truly believe if we can achieve these goals the road to prosperity and utopia will be open to us. We will create a world of pure equality for everyone. But one that also offers more equality for some of us then for others. We will finally have secured safety but also the existence of the gay race and a future for trans babies.

We will live in a world where refusing to suck my she sword will lead to criminal charges and the death penalty. A world where terfs will live in fear. But until that day comrades I need you all to be better, educate yourself and submit to our whims or else.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

I need some ranch dressing for all that word salad

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

Ranch dressing is a dogwhistle for white supremacy, as only a white supremacist would want to cover a woke word salad in whiteness to alter its true flavor!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They need bipoc dye to add to the dressing to cleanse it of racism.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

If we erase the nuclear family and require all children become property of the state we can push back against the rising tides of injustice

I mean... it couldn't be much worse her biological family in the OP's example.

where refusing to suck my she sword will lead to criminal charges and the death penalty.

👌👌👌👌👌

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The thing is craziness is often inherited so taking kids away often doesn't do much good.

Fostered and adopted kids have worse outcomes than kids from single parent families.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Considering the current social environment and pressures from the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if otherwise sane children would be driven mad with propanda.

Interesting, and I assume kids from single parent families do worse than dual parent families? Btw, you happen to have the study for that? I'm curious about the fostered kids.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This sort of gender weirdness and questioning of identify is actually normal and had almost always existed in some way surrounding puberty it was just a taboo to discuss. Most of the time it's a phase, sometimes it means the kid is just gay and hasn't accepted that about themselves yet, regardless it's not something that requires any kind of medical support in maybe 99% of cases. Sometimes you get suicidal kids that blame their suicidal tendencies on it but usually the core issue is something else.

Naturally if you go to a bunch of girls and say "hey you can be boys" they are gonna want to take you up on that since men are obviously superior and they want to come join the patriarchy in our oppression endeavors.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

since men are obviously superior and they want to come join the patriarchy in our oppression endeavors

Funnily enough I got the impression there were way more TIM's than TIF's. Though rather than superiority and power, I think most mtf's are motivated by autogynophilia and a desire for attention.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Jawohl!

[–]FourteenDigitz 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She then makes the truly bizarre statement that she has been “convinced for the last maybe 3 years” (i.e. since the daughter was 4-years old) “that they would tell me they are a lesbian or Bi, because they really like playing with my boobs.”

THIS IS UNABASHED GROOMING HOLY SHIT

Like, holy fuck. Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. How can you unironically publicly admit that you sexualize your FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD touching the breasts that fed them and get uncritical support? I’m so sickened rn. That’s so fucking gross.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I'm very concerned that the child seems to have am understanding of sexuality at 7 that isn't simply "I wanna marry my best friend when I grow up because we both like coloring".

Brave new world orgie porgy shit.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

How about if a kid asks, you say "Do you have a penis? No? Then you're not a boy." And that's the end of that conversation.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

All the biology you need on this matter, every other scenario is an edge case or abnormality and sets no precedent with regards the larger population. This used to be uncontroversial and I’m not sure why we have tolerated the shift, these people are worse than flat earthers and should be treated as such.

[–]RamblingOtter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think it's perfectly simple.

Given she has totally fucked up her child, she should have her breasts removed first. That way the child gets a real first-person example what it looks like and what it does. If the parent has been that completely stupid, then they should go through the firetrap first.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a rabbit hole you don't wanna go down mate. Have seen parents and kids transition together before. Dad's kid comes out as a woman and lo and behold Dad comes out at the same time. What a coincidence.

The issues here aren't that the people are unaware of the dirty details, they deny they exist entirely. They like to pretend that anything that makes them feel disphoric doesn't exist. It's insanity pure and simple. I can pity the insanity, but I can't pity the doctors going along with it, or the society that considers these people fit to maintain custody.

The real villians in this aren't the trans people, the insufferable woke types that are self flagellating themselves about how progressive they are, it's the doctors and the therapists that are encouraging it and getting rich off of the misery of others.

[–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I'm glad you mentioned the MSbP

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It’s ridiculous how obvious it is with the “trans kids”, it’s always the mother and the child never seems to be entirely on board with it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Reading between the lines here I think that's the case. The mom wants an abnormal kid for the attention it brings them, and the trans stuff is in vogue now where before it was Autism ADHD tourettes or whatever. Especially if it takes criticism off the mother for their own parental failings.

This seems to me to be a prime example of the toxic feminine behavior of "minesweeping". That is, reaching out feelers to premptively clear out the possible issues that can blow up in their face on their way to their intended destination. "Oh my kid isn't trans I'm just an Ally" then buys kids the books that unapologetically cast the trans kid as the hero. My kid want to be a Jedi, astronaut, Knight, whatever, same shit. They emulate their heroes.

Then the follow up of "maybe this is my fault, maybe my daughter is just trying to please me" questions floated are to disarm the last mines before the destination. Women constantly do this kind of behavior, "oh I was going to the bar because I like the atmosphere I wasn't going to pick up guys, oh I can't believe that guy kissed me I didn't put signals out at all it took me completely by surprise!"

Nah don't buy it. You wanted to hook up, but you know publicly saying that will get you shade, so you make up some convoluted excuse about how that's not what you really want.

This parent wants a trans son, knows they can't outright say that, so they come up with convoluted excuse about how it's not what they wanted and it just "happened" despite then instigating and driving every step of the process.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the sad thing is there are tons of difficult children they could adopt. But no, they have to go and ruin perfectly good ones. It's evil.