Your honest opinion on transgenders?

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[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Straight men having sex with each other isn't characteristic of other societies, though.

And I certainly agree that same-sex sexual activity is widespread in many other species-- notably one of the two most closely related to our own. What isn't at all clear is whether other animals can be said to truly have a sexual orientation, be it homosexual, bisexual... or heterosexual. So I don't know if it's possible to say what heterosexual males of other species get up to... since ours may be the only one where they exist.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What's your definition of bisexual if you think straight men can have sex with each other?

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Sexual attraction to both sexes. Not having sex with both sexes.

I mean, otherwise, if you're sexually-attracted to both sexes but only have sex with one, you wouldn't be bisexual. Which doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, having sex with someone doesn't mean that you're sexually-attracted to them. Sure, it should-- there ought to be no such thing as having sex you don't want, with people you don't want-- but that's not the world we live in. Unfortunately.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

How do you determine whether someone is sexually attracted to another person then?

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Why would I determine it? Surely it's a matter of that "someone"'s feelings, not mine. Or anyone else's.

Do you really want the question of whether someone is attracted to a person decided by some third party? "I hereby find that you ARE attracted that dude over there! So don't argue! Go and mack on him forthwith! THAT'S AN ORDER"

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So we're not going to establish a consistent definition for the purpose of the discussion?

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

My definition is consistent. You just don't agree with it, apparently.

And if yours is "anyone who has experienced sex with both sexes, even if they're only attracted to one of them, or neither", then there's really nothing to discuss anyway.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You provided a non-definition "that's for them to determine" ???

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

How is that a non-definition? I'm saying that the only person who knows whether you feel attracted to someone is you. Who else would it be? Me? The Toledo Mud Hens? The guy down the street?

I mean, maybe you don't know when you're attracted to someone, and have to ask somebody else to tell you whether you are or not. But that's definitely the exception to the rule.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lol. What is attraction to a person and how is it separate from the desire to have sex with them? Define it. You're refusing to.