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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Jewish law is the origin of most anti-homo customs. And you yids are really into the cock these days. Tel Aviv is the gayest city in the world. So maybe you're on to something.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

That is true.

Ever notice how pervasive homosexuality is in countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan even though those countries have the harshest laws against homosexuality?

[–]PenseePansy 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Well, I don't know that it's homosexuality (or genuine bisexuality, for that matter)-- more like what inevitably happens when the sexes are kept strictly-segregated. Then the straight guys use each other as an outlet. Which may be part of the reason why they're so hostile to same-sex sexuality in these cultures: for heterosexual men, those experiences aren't gonna be good ones, any more than the opposite-sex version would be if they were gay. So they assume that's the OBJECTIVE reality of sex between men. Instead of realizing it's just because this is literally unnatural and wrong for them. Not for everyone.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

this is literally unnatural and wrong for them

Not sure that you can call it unnatural when it occurs naturally, even in many species other than humans. It's not just in societies that are strictly sex-segregated.

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Straight men having sex with each other isn't characteristic of other societies, though.

And I certainly agree that same-sex sexual activity is widespread in many other species-- notably one of the two most closely related to our own. What isn't at all clear is whether other animals can be said to truly have a sexual orientation, be it homosexual, bisexual... or heterosexual. So I don't know if it's possible to say what heterosexual males of other species get up to... since ours may be the only one where they exist.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What's your definition of bisexual if you think straight men can have sex with each other?

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Sexual attraction to both sexes. Not having sex with both sexes.

I mean, otherwise, if you're sexually-attracted to both sexes but only have sex with one, you wouldn't be bisexual. Which doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, having sex with someone doesn't mean that you're sexually-attracted to them. Sure, it should-- there ought to be no such thing as having sex you don't want, with people you don't want-- but that's not the world we live in. Unfortunately.

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

How do you determine whether someone is sexually attracted to another person then?

[–]PenseePansy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Why would I determine it? Surely it's a matter of that "someone"'s feelings, not mine. Or anyone else's.

Do you really want the question of whether someone is attracted to a person decided by some third party? "I hereby find that you ARE attracted that dude over there! So don't argue! Go and mack on him forthwith! THAT'S AN ORDER"

[–]usehernameredditgender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So we're not going to establish a consistent definition for the purpose of the discussion?