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[–]ulalume 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Projection is typical in the cluster Bs.

[–]jagworms 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The most messed up part is that the R stands for Radical, as if women standing up for real women is an extreme view. It ain't.

[–]Haylstorm 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's radical to not want males in female spaces now I guess lol. It's so pathetic.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I think the radical is due to the marxists analysis.

Rad fems replace Marx's class analysis with the sexes so all men are oppressing all women (like the rich oppress the poor) much like CRT replaces class with race.

Which is mad in its own way.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Rad fems replace Marx's class analysis with the sexes so all men are oppressing all women (like the rich oppress the poor) much like CRT replaces class with race.

You can't just replace "class" with race or sex in a dialectic materialist analysis, that's just not how it works.

This is the equivalent of wanting to just replace "species" with "gender" when addressing the theory of evolution.

[–]FourteenDigitz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You say you can’t, but they do it anyway.

https://youtu.be/4JX4bsrj178

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's the "neo-marxism" bullshit again...

This is the equivalent of calling any "us vs them" ideology in the world "marxist", regardless of it's origin or actual content.

You know that this is just the same old, tired and ineffective "red scare" playbook the right has playing for years, don't you?

And the irony of it all is that this only made people support socialism even more, because newsflash: if you start to brand everything marxist, including things people actually like (movies, tv shows, anti-segregation laws, marriage equality and so on), they're going to start to wonder if it's that bad after all.

[–]FourteenDigitz 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Did you even watch the video before being reactionary? These people have literally admitted to adapting Marx.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

These people have literally admitted to adapting Marx.

I can shit on a sheet of paper and say that I'm adapting the Mona Lisa, or even identify as whatever shit I want, it doesn't mean anything.

Post structuralists do not believe in metanarratives (all encompassing means to describe and analyse reality) and so reject their very notion. Liberalism, religion, nazism and marxism are all exemples of metanarratives because they propose to explain reality by specific frameworks, and so are deemed to be "incomplete" and "inaccurate" by their very essence by the post structuralists.

I advise to to educate yourself by reading actual literature on political philosophy instead of simply believing on what certain media personalities want you to belive.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Marx ain't no Mona Lisa.

He was a middle class snob who used prostitutes and expected hisn own daughters to marry up and become ladies.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Marx ain't no Mona Lisa.

You knew what I meant by the comparison, don't be autistic.

He was a middle class snob who used prostitutes and expected hisn own daughters to marry up and become ladies.

He was like our average philosopher then? lol

I love how people who are illiterate about philosophy and science think that the people behind most well regarded inventions and philosophies were model, god fearing citizens.

[–]jagworms 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just because they said that doesn't mean they understand his work. Marx had valid criticisms of capitalism and did not invent a new economic system with his name on it.

[–]Athelhilda4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Marx was a loser who lived off the goodwill of other people, never had a job, and raped his maid.

[–]jagworms 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good thing none of that discredits him as an economist! He was a thinker and writer, not someone to emulate.

[–]Athelhilda4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He wasn’t an economist. He lived off his “friends” and never had a job. You have to have a degree in order to be an economist. Taking anything Marx wrote seriously is like listening to a NEET living in his mom’s basement in 2022.

[–]jagworms 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now that the women are men, it's just men oppressing men. Is that a step in the right direction?

[–]SMCAB 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

My boss would say " What the fuck is a Terf, now get the fuck out of my office and whatever a Terf is be more of it, you sell a lot of shit."

[–]CreditKnifeMan 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Trans women take "radical feminism" to an entirely different level. It's brutal.

Normal woman simply can't compete with those guys.

[–]IkeConn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll be glad when this queer tranny fad is over and done with.

[–]beerghal[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say we still have atkeast ten more years of it 😔

[–]Rob3122 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm sorry it's hard to keep up with all these new terms. What's a terf again?

[–]beerghal[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist i.e. A woman who doesn't believe a trans woman is a woman

[–]Danimal4NU 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Often they're lesbians that just want creepy transvestite dudes to leave them alone

[–]beerghal[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's why the whole idea of a "Lgbt community" is such a crock of horseshit. They all hate each other

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They always be bitching, them gays.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Isn't it just the t trying to force the lgb to be attracted to them?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Bisexuals also accuse everyone of being biphobic for not having sex with them.

Gays are mean to lesbians.

Lesbians keep telling everyone else what to do.

[–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh wow, I had heard something of bisexuals complaining but I had no idea of the other two. Like one big sitcom, with only a common goal uniting the characters.

[–]Rob3122 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Thanks. Since I'm a guy I guess I don't meet the qualifications to be a terf. Is there a similar term for guys who don't believe tranny freaks are what they claim to be?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Doesn't matter it's become a slur essentially the same way cis became a slur.

Kinda blew up in semi progressive circles a few years ago, around the time I completely checked out from mainstream social media activism. Essentially the left adopted the same kind of argumentative style the religious right had been using for years with loads of shibboleths and if you're not with me you're my enemy Anakin Skywalker school of debate tactics. Made it impossible to have productive discussions on most topics.

It was back when they were arguing about bathroom rights or whatever, I was always of the mind that "provided people are going through the proper legal and medical channels it's largely a non-issue, and beyond that let people use the single occupancy handicapped bathroom if they feel uncomfortable with using the normal one" but there was always a loud group of utterly brainless types that wanted to claim that this accounted for discrimination and that anyone should be allowed to choose whatever bathroom they want for "essentially" what amounts to any arbitrarily chosen reason.

Somewhere between the extremes of "Trans isn't real" and "We need to accept everyone" there's the truth. Some minority of people are legitamately trans and there needs to be a proper vetting process which seems largely abandoned now. It's also entirely within the realm of possibility that some people will pretend to be trans simply to gain access to women's only spaces and commit sexual crimes, denying this doesn't make the problem go away, it's like denying the proclivity of pedophiles to seek out positions of trust. It's wrong to assume that teachers are all pedophiles certainly but that doesn't mean strong vetting and scrutiny is not needed on the position. It's very similar to the trans issue, most I'd argue are far from dangerous but there's a small minority of psychopaths that will seize on any and every opportunity allowed them to victimize others and we cannot deny this reality. In no way does recognizing it constitute a violation of people's rights either. Quite the contrary, if trans people are to have their rights protected then strong legal and medical vetting needs to take place lest they be lumped in with the psychopaths and sexual predators. As that one school in Virginia recently experienced with their horrible rape case, now the entire anti-trans mantra is justified by the actions of one, and you'd have to be braindead stupid to not get that it's not a matter of if it will happen, it's a matter of when, and it's completely avoidable if they just use strong vetting process and common sense of not letting the penis havers get intimate access to the vaginally inclined.

In other words biological sex is fucking real. If it's not real then what's the point of being trans?

Most people are naturally quite hesitant to get into the weeds on these issues because it's quite messy and there's no way around offending people's sensibilities but we do need to take precautionary measures against potential abuse instead of our current reactionary style of just letting things run out until the problems arise. There's very proper ways of dealing with this as a society and it's largely how it was dealt with in the pre-internet days. Strong medical barriers to entry. .

[–]CreditKnifeMan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

shibboleths.

Seems to be the root of much of the bullshit.

Basically an excuse to disregard existing culture and history.

This is how civilizations are demolished from within.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's just the age old purity signalling and witch-hunt mentality spiral. When the movement doesn't accomplish it's goals because the goals become unclear and muddled rather than proactively discuss and address why the goals failed and if the plan should be adjusted, the more zealous memebrs of any group will never be convinced that there could be any flaw in their ideology and instead seek to find enemies within to identify and expel to further cement the ideological direction rather than address potential course changes. This happens in most any group from churches to sports teams to political parties. Always happens in any sort of group dynamics with humans. While a healthy state of discourse and debate can stave off the onset for a time once it's begun a group will slowly but surely hemorrhage it's more reasonable members until they become more or less ineffectual and irrelevant. Rinse and repeat with most every social movement throughout history.

Look at the Christian Women's Temperance League. They made great strides in their own agenda going so far as to successfully pass a prohibition amendment to the the constitution. Now they are irrelevant and their legacy largely erased, but at one time they were one of the if not the most significant cultural movements in US history. What happened?

This is why the right side of history argument is deeply flawed. History isn't written yet. We don't know how things will play out.

[–]spanishprofanity 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Trans Exclusionary Radical Fella 🤩

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Troon Exclusionary Rad Friend 😎

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You can be a "TERF" regardless of your gender. There's already plenty of men that are TERFs, so don't worry about it.

[–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You can be whatever you want to be, member. I'm a massive black dildo in a pornstars drawer. Wigger is a lampshade. Crustybutt is a box of rocks.

Embrace your inner fuckface.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, troons are cowards.

They only try to bully women and children.

They always know who is a man when it comes to targeted harassment.

[–]slavdude0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just TE?

Gender critical might also encompass this.

[–]meisthebigdumbTransracial BlackX Rockgender Bispecies 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Coming from the most fragile group of them all 😂😂😂

Try "misgendering" them once and they will erupt into tears.

[–]beerghal[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their whole ideology is based on acting like a victim. They have zero self awareness

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the thing about being actually marginalized - no one will stand up for you.
~t. Nazi

[–]toastgender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's rich coming from the people that begin literally shaking and crying when they get called the wrong pronouns. Can't wait for this insanity to end.

[–]TotoroDeams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are the most projection bunch of people I have ever seen.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They think their erection means they are just happy.

You can't expect them to own their feelings if they can even deny the physical evidence of their own bodies.