"Edgy jokes leads to eugenics" that's just Woke Marvel for you

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

sigh

I remember a time when comic books had actual stories in them. Overblown at times, sure, but that's part and parcel of the medium. I'm so fucking glad I stopped reading them before they started pandering to the morons with shit like this sanctimonious writer mouthpiece bullshit.

[–]RichardsonDavis 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I am glad I got to start comics when I now know how woke it is. The indie titles and the ones before 2012 were recommended to me by some mates. Anything before 2012, basically. I confirmed that when I was reading an X-Men comic with the ads still intact and that there was an ad for an issue where there was a gay marriage that is going to happen. Red flags all around. Anyway, I have read my fair share of manga and I am now exploring comic books. Shouldn't be too hard since there's a shitton of backlogs and older issues and indie comics and great storylines too catch up to. I'll learn to be more disappointed with DC and Marvel in no time.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

See, even the gay marriage thing wouldn't have been an issue on its own for me. Even back when I was still reading (and as a kid, to boot), it wasn't exactly subtle that Mystique and Destiny were a lot more than just friends. It was just one aspect of their characters, not the only aspect. It's when that (or some other) special identifier becomes the core of the character that I lose interest. Because when that happens, author/writer mouthpiece is almost always the next step.

And since I read (or, rather, read in the past tense) comics for larger-than-life characters with epic confrontations, having entire pages given over some whinging screed about how this or that real-life issue is far more important than whatever soap opera storyline we're in the middle of this year is extremely jarring and unsatisfying.

I think I'm going to dig out my comics and read Age of Apocalypse again. It's some depressing shit, to be sure, but seeing Magneto literally rip the ancient Darwinist blueberry limb from limb was easily one of the most satisfying scenes I've ever read. Almost as good as Wolverine popping those bone claws for the first time after losing his metal coating.

[–]RichardsonDavis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Indeed. I'll give the Age of Apocalypse one a gander. What I hate about the current LGBT situation is that there are actual good stories about it, most of which are indie. Just look at Line Webtoon. Lore Olympus has a gay couple in it but they are not the center of attention, and then there is this comic which tackles gay issues and the characters are more than their identities. It's just there, an emphasis sure but there. I should reread it again when I get the time.

Epic confrontations were given to me via mangas so I am not very ecstatic about some of them. Shounen mangas have numbed me to some confrontations now and again.

I wonder where Marvel or Dc get their writers, whereas there are others who might've done a better job or much better, make an entirely new character that has the gay things that the editors want.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you do look up AoA, start with the Legion Quest storyline, it sets up the entire AoA timeline.

I wonder where Marvel or Dc get their writers,

Scraped out the dankest pits of Tumblr, I suspect, based on some of the shit they put out. A generation or so of "creators" weaned on the most awful combination of shitty, powertrip fanfics, early identity politics, and the idea that screaming the loudest make you more right than the person you're screaming at.

[–]RichardsonDavis 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you do look up AoA, start with the Legion Quest storyline, it sets up the entire AoA timeline. Will do. Thanks for the recommendation.

Scraped out the dankest pits of Tumblr, I suspect, based on some of the shit they put out. Yeah, can't argue with that. I used to browse Pinterest and I thought Tumblr was the shit. I was mistaken but there are some genuinely creative things there and I am saddened that these execs and editors just didn't get them.

Anyway, past is past. Thanks for the recommendations again. Good day!!!