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[–]vcardthrow1 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

OP, I'm so sorry.

At least with a diagnoses, insurance might actually help cover some surgery.

I won't diminish it at all. I have a botched rhinoplasty and breathing issues...I grind at night and it's destroyed my teeth. It looks like shit, I'm in such a way that any "correction" will probably require a monster nose, and most surgeons I've asked for help have either said no or said not without harvesting rib cartilage....

Having shitty bone structure has multiple dimensions of health and pain ramifications.

Just another femcel burden, your body guarantees you a life of sadness and probably a life of physical/medical stress on top of it.

[–]HornyToad[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

vcardthrow1 thank you so much for your compassion and wise words! I'm actively looking in to insurance coverage but it takes forever to actually get approved. 😭

I won't diminish it at all. I have a botched rhinoplasty and breathing issues...I grind at night and it's destroyed my teeth.

vcardthrow1, I know you've been actively searching for a cure to your predicament and you probably already know this, but have you visited an ENT doctor? Perhaps they could prescribe a septoplasty or even a rhinoplasty to resolve your condition? I've heard of many normal women with nasal issues that have a septoplasty covered by their health insurance. Isn't it a running joke that celebrities explain that they had a rhinoplasty because of their "deviated septum"? Dual septoplasty/rhinoplasty surgeries are quite common.

I'm not sure how doctors or an insurance would react to the fact that your issues were caused by a rhinoplasty, but there has to be some way for you to get help!!!

The fact that you have bruxism means your breathing issue is really serious and could be a sleep disorder!

Here's what I suggest in order to get (possible) insurance assistance:

Visit an ENT and explain that your breathing issue causes poor sleep. The ENT should refer you to visit a sleep specialist. You should be prescribed a sleep study. If the sleep study comes back indicating you have UARS or sleep apnea then you have a diagnosable condition that your health insurance likely covers. Sleep disorders like sleep apnea and UARS are only solved with a CPAP machine or nasal/jaw surgery.

Doctors prescribe CPAP machines first because they're not invasive, but if the patient doesn't see any improvement that's when they submit a claim to insurance for surgery.

Just another femcel burden, your body guarantees you a life of sadness and probably a life of physical/medical stress on top of it.

😭😭😭 I'm so fucking tired of everything. Life is just one bad surprise after another. It's like an exponential graph that only shoots downwards. Every day I feel listless, especially since coronavirus began.

Hoping you find a solution 🙏

[–]kwallio 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I have a recessed lower third and sleep apnea also. I've always had breathing problems. Unfortunately I was diagnosed with sleep apnea over a year ago and I still don't use my cpap because I can't find a mask that fits. Guess what, they are all designed for ppl with normal faces.

[–]HornyToad[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

kwallio, I really urge you to go to r/jawsurgery on Reddit. If you have sleep apnea your jaw surgery will be covered by your health insurance. There are only two "cures" for obstructive sleep apnea: using a CPAP for the rest of your life or getting jaw surgery.

I urge you to consider getting jaw surgery! The recovery is hard but it can really ascend you AND solve your sleep disorder! I have started my process of jaw surgery but it will take around two years for me to actually get the surgery after insurance and orthodontics are completed. 🤡

Remember, OSA only gets worse and worse as we get older. It's a progressive condition and it's covered by health insurance. You absolutely should get jaw surgery ASAP. Even if it didn't make people look better, I would still recommend jaw surgery because poor sleep is directly linked to depression and memory issues.

[–]kwallio 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out.

[–]Feelinveryblue 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If you have sleep apnea you should be eligible for jaw surgery which will fix the issues you have and make you look and feel better.

Please, please see a physician and push for this.

[–]HornyToad[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you feelinveryblue, I've been trying to push for jaw surgery but the covid pandemic really wrecked my life. I lost my job and had to use up savings and I can't even go to the doctor easily because I'm immunocompromised and if I catch covid I could end up on a ventilator.

My life is a joke. At this rate I'm going to have to wait until I'm 35 to look normal and start dating. I haven't even had my first kiss because I was excluded in high school and isolated in college. I lived so many years in my head that my youth passed me by and I only realized like 300 days ago that I'm extremely socially maladapted due to my looks and mental state.

Life is so cruel. I wish my parents had known about my bad health when I was a teenager so I could have gotten treatment under their insurance. I wish they would have paid for me to get plastic surgery too, but I can't blame them since money was tight.

It hurts to think about what my life would be like if I had gotten double jaw surgery when I was a teenager. I would look normal, and I might have even had a boyfriend by now.

One of my fears about relationships is I think that people become too weird and introverted to have a healthy relationship if they don't already have one before their late twenties...I'm already weird and ugly but I feel like I become weirder and more bizarre each passing year.

Even when I get my surgeries I don't think I'll be a good or even competent girlfriend.

[–]Feelinveryblue 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I feel the exact same way about me and my jaw situation, not only that but my body too.

It's as if there's a giant party where everyone gets a piece of cake and yours drops on the floor. Yeah you can pick it up and scrape off all the dirt and lint but it's still a piece of cake that fell on the floor. And now there's parts of that cake that you'll never get to taste like the beautiful icing because it had bits in it, but everyone else gets to have icing--

That's exactly what life is like for me.

Whilst I was off to the side trying to salvage my broken piece that barely resembles cake everyone was having their fun, sharing the experience with eachother while I missed it all.

And even if at the end of the party I'm lucky and manage to find a new piece of cake it's just not the same. I'll be all alone, having to rush my cake eating experience, hoping that I'll get to enjoy every bit before the lights shut off on me and I have to go home.

[–]StrategicTactic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sleep apnea is relatively common as far as sleep disorders go, and doesn't often need treatment. It is similar to having seasonal allergies in that most doctors don't care. I was told that I had it, and just to not sleep on my back- which I do not normally do anyways.

[–]Feelinveryblue 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's great--fuck off.

This is a saidit for ugly women whose lives are being made hell. Don't ruin this for OP.

[–]HornyToad[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because it's common doesn't mean it's harmless. Untreated sleep apnea increases the likelihood of obesity, memory issues, high blood pressure, Alzheimer's, and stroke. In children it's related to ADD, ADHD, anxiety, and depression.

The only cure is sleeping with a CPAP machine for the rest of your life or getting double jaw surgery.

Just because you can sleep on your side doesn't mean you're healthy. Your brain is not getting enough oxygen when you sleep. It's a silent killer.

But yes, most doctors don't care. It's sad.