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[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You're still describing transtrenders. Transsexuals are born with a neurological condition.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's the same claim made by most trans genders and trans'trenders' as you call them, their allies, and of you. You have three labels for the exact same group. You want to claim a label, woman, for yourself even though this term is about reproductive capacity and you want to pretend some inner thing you have supersedes the actual definition.

If you were born with a neurological condition is irrelevant to your sex, which is binary. If your genitals work and you are not one of the 0.04% of the population that can be genuinely described as having a dsd that makes their status in that binary difficult to define, then you are a man or a woman but you are not "trans" anything. Many men and women have neurological conditions, that changes nothing about their physical reality or their sex.

So, when you say I'm describing "transtrenders', I say I am describing you.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You want to claim a label, woman, for yourself

I never said that.

you want to pretend some inner thing you have supersedes the actual definition.

I don't.

sex, which is binary

I never said it wasn't.

Many men and women have neurological conditions, that changes nothing about their physical reality

I never said that either.

So, when you say I'm describing "transtrenders', I say I am describing you.

But you aren't. You are taking things transtrenders do and incorrectly applying them to me based on the assumption that we are the same. Thus you are only demonstrating my point.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

well there you go. I will accept your contention here that you, in spite of all that you typed, are a complete enigma and you said nothing of substance at all. It's almost like you typed nothing at all here.

Let's do that: let's type nothing and be done. It will get as far-- but for the record I fully see you as the same as the tg people you think are ruining what ever good thing you had. If that's your point, then I feel really bad that you ever thought anyone actually believed transsexuals were actually the same as the opposite sex they larp, with or without surgery.

Bye!

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

then I feel really bad that you ever thought anyone actually believed transsexuals were actually the same as the opposite sex they larp, with or without surgery.

Again, I never said such a thing, you're projecting transgender rhetoric onto me. If a transsexual were already the right sex, what would be the point of going through expensive and painful transition treatments to make the dysphoria more tolerable?

This is circular logic. You assume I'm a transgender ally, then based on that assumption you use their rhetoric as if I uphold it to try and prove I'm one of them in the first place.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You've said nothing, I agree.

Also, I never said such a thing, I'm not assuming you are a transgender ally. I'm seeing from your own words that you no different than the transgender activists.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But you're quoting from me things I never said and don't agree with, but the transtrenders do.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)