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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

cheer on subjugation of others views You mean I get a big ol' freedom hard on every time one of you bigots with anti gay anti race bigoted views loses a platform? Oh you bet your ass I do.

Now - if they actually tried to change the the first amendment to not allow Bigotry and racism, gay bashing - whatever. Well me and you both would be at the same picket line. But Nobody has to give racist fucks a platform. You can go find or make your own platforms all you like - but NOBODY has to GIVE you a soap box (guess what, that is part of the first amendment too!! Isn't that neat?). Racists seem to think they are the silent Majority in this country and I love to watch them learn THAT JUST AINT TRUE :D.

you like to throw out the term bigot; yet I looked that up, and you match the definition to a T; interesting.

You are Correct: I am bigoted against: Racist Bigots, and Gay Bashing Bigots, and most, but not all Trump supporting Bigots. That is a personal quirk I see no moral reason to rectify at this juncture. I'm just gonna keep hating Racists, and gay Bashers and anti-Semites. So go ahead and put a little mark on your chalkboard cause: Ya GOT me!

Can I come to a middle? Yes. My Step father is a lovely man and a Conservative. We come to middle grounds in our infrequent debates. My Step brother as well. Although it might get a bit more heated - at least we can agree to disagree.

(sometimes I say "You" as a generalization as pertaining to the conversation, I dont know your personal views, Im just trying to answer your questions here)

Having said that, you know its hard to find a middle ground with some of you Trump Fanatics. Some openly defend racist antisemitic views, and I feel that when you can stand there and say "I'm Evil and proud of it" - That is a statement of 'No Quarter' and you pretty much tell me you have no morals and declare open season on yourself.

So if you want to Gay bash, Race Bash, Jew bash, I'm going to fight for your right to do it... In your own quiet little echo chambers away from the Decent folk of society. You shouldn't be arrested for it, you should still be able to make your little awful publications... In the dark, behind closed doors afraid like the little roaches you are. You can have your own little personal Taliban's away from good folk.

The world needs to move on from racist bullshit. Shooting up churches to start race wars needs to stop.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I note you 'quote' your own words from the start, which make them look like mine. For now, I'll guess that was an accident.

Overall, I like you're dedication to at least fight; bravo. But, fight who, I note, as so do you, that you paint broad 'groupings'; in that, 'if you disagree, then you're one of those'. Am I wrong, if not, then I've got to fully disagree with you.

As far as echo chambers, I can turn on my MSM right now, and they'll echo exactly what you say, and have a million people following suit; at least by way of the TV. And I just don't buy it.

I've got my own opinions on most fronts, and am not accepted by the right, or left. My ideas are too extreme for acceptance in either I guess; yet, I see your posts, and think. When reading them, I see you own up to being a bigot(I learned a bigot, is a bigot, and bad); yet you claim some sort of superiority in the line of bigotry; I just find it odd.

What comes to mind overall, and I mean no offense, is almost the classical 'homophobe', where by you hate, what you hold dear at heart; just changing the flavor so as to not be noticed. Not saying you are, I don't know you, but it's what comes to mind.

Bah, at times I think a 'get to know you' post would be good, but then again, you, and I both know that would be used against said party. What I can relay to you are my views. Here goes.

I hate no one. A Helping Hand has no orientation, color, or religious preference; I mean a helping hand at the moment of death; we all would reach, and whomever grabs, would be the saving hand.

Aside from that though, yes, I'm biased by life, as all people are; anyone who states they're not, are lying to everyone, and themselves. My biases are only in regards to my moment of life, or survival, however you want to look at it.

Overall, I believe in a live, and let live strategy; do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.

RESPECT, universal respect is huge on my list. Not so much looking for a friend, but negating a new enemy. I've noted black, white, brown, asian people I've known can hold these values; my verdict is out on the Jews, as I'm not sure. The reason I'm not sure, is I've got some Jew, yet, at the same time, Jews are some of the most racist people I've met, and often times due to not being 'full', or exactly white, seemingly treat me with less. You seem to be verbose with your opinions, how do you feel about how Israel treats the Palestinians, or the fact that all none Jews are called Goyem?

I guess I've said as much as I want for now, but as far as 'quarter', meaning as in shelter for others, or myself, I would always have a keen, savvy, and aware open door, yet, am ready for the not so good, and necessary actions for those I care about, and myself.

[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You know... Sometimes I come into these debates and I am just used to people not arguing in good faith. It's not you. I dont know you.

I know a kid shot up a church to start a race war. I know a man long ago killed a who bunch of Jews, and yet I have had the honor and privilege of sitting at a table during Passover. The world wants to hold homosexuals to account because they think it is a lifestyle and a choice and they call it immoral. I had a gay couple introduce me to a beautiful girl I dated for almost 3 years. And dont even get me started on my time living in the south. Who'd of thought I'd miss Kudzu?

I see a lot of things - a lot of injustice right now. And I'm not happy about it. And I want it to get better.

For all of us.

That's how I feel.

I see what they call liberals on FOX and how unpatriotic we are, Hate America - Communist.

Because I want our grandparents and kids to have affordable healthcare I'm communist. Because I want the money I paid into with Social Security - I'm a communist. Because I call out that this is no longer a capitalist country but a corporatist country Im a communist.

So no. I dont come into many of these talks pulling punches. I have always liked a good fight.

So are you always seeing the real me here? Of course not. I have no Idea if I'm seeing the real you.

I tell you HaWhat. We get FOX and CNN off the air for six months I bet all this bickering will cut down quite a bit.

But thats it. I got up at five yesterday morning and Ill be up at five today. I'm out.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I tell you HaWhat. We get FOX and CNN off the air for six months I bet all this bickering will cut down quite a bit.

That would be something else. People might lose their minds though.

Yes, we are a corporatist country, socialism and a good welfare state for the very, very rich at low to no interest and covert feudalism for the poor and middle class.

I've noticed something recently that I'd thought I would share. I was talking to a friend about bank and corporate bailouts, which is basically just a big welfare check. He was fine that the government bailed out banks for billions of dollars, the same banks that defraud the American people and resist public banking at all costs.

Then when I talked about giving people (the lower middle class) affordable healthcare even if it is only the basics he got mad and called me a communist. You also, have one side saying medicare for all is bad and communist, and private health care is bad. Either they want to erase medicare for good, or bring in medicare for all and erase private healthcare. How about, we have medicare for all and private health insurance, however, in a good faith classical free market, so that we can choose from dozens of private healthcare at afforadable prices. And it a healthcare institution fails do not bail them out. That way we don't have one monopoly healthcare company for one state. And the healthcare companies won't take as many chances.

[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember in 2008 when we bailed out Everybody. The housing markets, the banks, Freaking Ford Motor Company and then the execs - with the bailout money gave themselves raises. Well when Obama bailed them out it made me mad - but he put safeguards in place to try to keep this crap happening again. Now Trump in his infinite Wisdom has removed those safeguards. Man that makes a lot of things look good right now dunnit? Well, thats alright. When the housing bubble pops this next time and good people loose their houses again, I'm buying a house. Might just get property with it too.

And a bunker I can climb under and hide in while the world goes and kills itself.

As long as the lobbyists for big corporations wine and dine our senators and pay for big under the table benefits this is going to happen. A big ol' repeal of Citizens United would be a start towards ending that.

You ever notice when they make a bill they make it sound like the opposite of what it does? Citizens United is really Corporations United? The Patriot Acts were about the most Anti-patriotic rights stomping acts in ages. If they make an 'Americans for Kittens' Act it would be in favor of Americans drowning kittens.

Bah. I'm cranky and shouldn't be on here today.

We are on the same side in a great many things, you and I.

Polar opposites on others, but that's what make us people I suppose.