Beware of false choices like Trump versus CIA/deep state. If this impeachment effort was meant to succeed it would have focused on Trumps ties to Epstein, mafia, Cohn and other criminal interests over the years. Of course that would bring down more than just Trump so they don't. by Jesus in The_Donald_

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Welp I'll give you some props for speaking out against the hive mind in what was suppose to be a hive mind sub. Have some votes!

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[–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ayyy

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[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

ALL HAIL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP!

MAY HIS DIVINE LIGHT SHINE ON US ALL!

Donald Trump 2020 - Easy Win. by [deleted] in The_Donald_

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sadly, a crypto-democrat, globalist nationalist. His red flag law promotion is atrocious.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your insane unhinged impotent Conservative rage tells me otherwise.

Donald Trump 2020 - Easy Win. by [deleted] in The_Donald_

[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Trump could win without any campaign or speeches.

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You dumbass Commies and your 'impeachment' fantasies. It would NEVER pass the Senate, moron. Lick my salty choad.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You sure are salty lately. Is it because Your treasonous, evil, racist, fascist, colluding, dictator wannabe of a president is closer than ever to impeachment and probably prison?

I'd say so, salty boi.

:D

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mueller-is-a-Deep-State-Loser.

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you done sucking useless Mueller's cock yet? 'WE GOT HIM!' lol, u lunkhead

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Have you listened to Obumble try to speak when his Teleprompter goes down? He is LOST AND CLUELESS. I would post a vid, but you won't watch it anyway.

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want you to reproduce

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

aaaw You didn't like your bed time story? How about one a little more Spicy? Like You and 50 shades of Jew? We can have you smothered in curry and fisted by dark skinned Jewish men? Probably more your speed. What color ball gag you want?

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[–]trulyascumbag 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Antifa

Ahahaha I knew u were a loser irl

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

D'aaaw! Did you get lonely?

Did I put you to bed without a story and make you sad?

"Once upon a time there was a Trashy Garbageperson. He was trashy and liked meth and smelled a lot like unwashed feet. One day he decided to go to a rally and he called everybody a Jew. He angered all the Scumbag Antifa Shitheads. But one Scumbag Antifa shithead was Big, and less than a coward than the other Antifa shitheads. He grabbed the Trashy Garbageperson by the upper lip and pulled that upper lip over the Garbagepersons forehead and rolled his head up his ass. And in the end Nobody learned anything, because they ALL SUCKED"

The end! :D

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[–]trulyascumbag 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aww no essay this time?

You didn't get the raise you wanted at the JIDF?

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh kiddo, shitposting is love. Shitposting is life!

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[–]trulyascumbag 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow you are so mad hahaha.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not convinced, especially after Khamala and the racist friendly accusations. It doesn't matter though, Trump will win again unless he really messes up between now and then. Unless the DNC pushes Sanders which doesn't seem likely, and even then Sanders would probably lose.

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[–]IamRedBeard 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You know, no matter what public opinion is, Uncle Joe is going to be our nominee. Right?

Right?

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see what you are getting at, though. There is a documentary out there that speculates that it was the Secret Service that killed him.

I dont believe in a great many conspiracies. But ill whip out my Tin Foil Hat for JFK

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bet you thought you were being terribly clever. D'aaaw :D Adoreable.

Ill be the first to congratulate on good shitpost.

That, what you just did? Not clever. Not a good shitpost. It's just trash. Low level. Something that would be shocking to a thirteen year old.

I suggest you start reading books. It will be hard at first, but with work, you can do it. Your school might even have a program to encourage you!

With the power of books you can really work up the power to have excellent vocabulary to write great long winded shitposts that will really rile up the Lib-tards and have them fuming at the mouth and have Great wringing of the hands and gnashing of teeth!

So you go there little buddy. Like the little train that could! You chug along and you read those books and you become the real shitposter we all know you can be!

Good luck, little tyke!

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right, I said that wrong. It was created to move large sums of money between the biggest banks. Which is exactly what the Fed does now, and the SS is incorporated with the Federal Reserve now. So it's a similar function but you're right the Federal Reserve in name didn't exist until 1913.

Point is, big bankers seem to control the secret service, and use that as a mechanism to control the president, under the auspices of keeping him safe. And the timing of the assassination of Lincoln with the passage of that law is extremely suspicious.

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they are compromised long before the innaguration. Choosing between two establishment picks is no choice at all.

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well now wait a minute. Help me understand that, because the Federal Reserve didn't start until 1913. And Lincoln was shot in 1865.

What am I missing?

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean I think it's implicit at this point. Everyone knows.

Did you know the secret service that protects the president, actually was invented to protect the transport of money from the Federal Reserve, and was later expanded to protect the president. And that expansion legally passed on the same day Lincoln was shot?

Pretty weird.

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[–]IamRedBeard 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You think on the night before they are sworn in they get a package from the Fed with a video of the JFK assassination?

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[–]trulyascumbag 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do you work at a movie theatre? You're great at projecting things. Pathetic jewish dog.

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty much everyone since JFK has been

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

Please watch the level of discussion and the ad hominems, they're not necessary and go against the goals of this website.

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Worse the Goearge W.(maybe).

Nah, he hasn't started 2 trillion-dollar wars that killed almost a million people, under false pretenses.

Trump isn't even close to that bad yet. As long as he avoids major war, I'll always rank him about George W Bush

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[–]Arcon97 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing how you've managed to weave so many half-truths and conspiracies together into a web of garbage.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pyramid of debate, god bless. Calling someone a dumb faggot isn't an argument.

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[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sad, it took you guys about 3 months to spoil yet another alternative with your fucking toxic, collectivist, bullshittery.

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[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Quit your bitching, loser.

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[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

SaidIt hates President Trump, and America. Welcome to SaidIt, and God bless America!

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[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't stand Donald Trump the man, but I'll be goddamned if Democrats will win 2020. I wish there were any other non-violent way to resist them, but for now all we have is President Trump. God bless America!

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[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I need to write something up about it, but what we have now isn't Socialism, it's not Capitalism, it's not Communism, and it's not Fascism.

As it stands today in the USA, we have elements of Fascism, Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism(I guess); try not paying your property taxes, or not 'volunteering' to sign up for the draft..... Speaking of which, let's talk 'reparations'.... What of all the men drafted who never came back whole? They had no choice, that's a slave.

What we live in, truly should be called what it is, Command, and Control ; "Do as I say, not as I, your overlord do".

As far as Trump, where would I put him???? I do believe there's for some reason a degree of lip service the cabal must do, in order to maintain their death grip on humanity, and earth. Perhaps, it's a natural part of ownership, and dominion over others; at some level we all submit to this bullshit; well most....

My point with Trump, is somewhat like Obama, people select the lessor of 2 evils presented. I really think, to some level, voting away from 'yes let's kill', is what's keeping us as a populace out of war, at least for now, and if you think back to '15, that's why people supported him. Yet, the real master's keep the agenda's rolling on all fronts, as we allow it as a whole.

As far as left, or right, I don't follow either, but I do parlay what I find interesting, amusing, or a must know; from anywhere. I'll say, Trump is at least the second mullet, after Obama that's been entertaining.........When given lemons, make lemonade, right? LOL

No matter who's elected, or in office, the greater agenda of the puppeteers will continue; just like it is; hence why we must forget left, or right.

Aside from that, and a side note, my father was a producer at Austin Access tv in the 80's, and 90's. He got several people going on the 'truth' movement, whatever that really is. He also was one of a couple guys that got AJ started; somewhere in one of his shows he credits my father for this; he couldn't remember his name, but 'the guy who drove the army truck, and had those dogs'(cannot be mistaken, lol it's the vehicle I learned to drive in). My point in mentioning this, I thought, and think at the time AJ was intent on helping people........ My father, almost from the start suspected AJ of being a government stooge. My thoughts on AJ now, well, 'all roads to hell are paved with good intentions'.

All of us at some point have laid a few bricks in that road; some have redemption, and others have sealed their fates.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember in 2008 when we bailed out Everybody. The housing markets, the banks, Freaking Ford Motor Company and then the execs - with the bailout money gave themselves raises. Well when Obama bailed them out it made me mad - but he put safeguards in place to try to keep this crap happening again. Now Trump in his infinite Wisdom has removed those safeguards. Man that makes a lot of things look good right now dunnit? Well, thats alright. When the housing bubble pops this next time and good people loose their houses again, I'm buying a house. Might just get property with it too.

And a bunker I can climb under and hide in while the world goes and kills itself.

As long as the lobbyists for big corporations wine and dine our senators and pay for big under the table benefits this is going to happen. A big ol' repeal of Citizens United would be a start towards ending that.

You ever notice when they make a bill they make it sound like the opposite of what it does? Citizens United is really Corporations United? The Patriot Acts were about the most Anti-patriotic rights stomping acts in ages. If they make an 'Americans for Kittens' Act it would be in favor of Americans drowning kittens.

Bah. I'm cranky and shouldn't be on here today.

We are on the same side in a great many things, you and I.

Polar opposites on others, but that's what make us people I suppose.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As long as we agree that he is a Traitor.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't like that People wont differentiate between greedy banker corporate Jews, (which are just as bad as greedy banker corporate Americans so I just throw them in the same pile) and the Jewish woman that's like a second mother to me that made sure I maintained a roof over my own head and didn't drink myself to death in my early 30's. I have little love for for those that live in white towers and are out of touch with the common person. Jewish or Christian when these people get into power they start trying to wield their holy books like mallets and hitting us all over the heads with what they feel is their moral authority. Im a big O'l fan of separation of Church and State - In Every country and Whatever Church

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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Either that, or his mental quality is deteriorating.

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[–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not necessarily; they could be from outside the US… and I also don't think it's very fair to say someone is "their" president if they didn't vote for them, or even weren't able to, either. Saying that Trump is still the president of the US, however, would be 100% correct in any situation where he is still elected.

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup the liberal media and the conservative media play good-cop/bad-cop and they switch roles anytime the party of the president changes. It's apparently enough to keep 330 million people fooled enough to submit

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[–]Jesus 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's called propaganda and theatrics. Hillary wouldn't nuke Iran, she'd appoint neocons around her like Trump has done. They are not supid enough to do such a thing, Iran isn't Iraq. They have a powerful military. Trump is a Zionist puppet, that I know for sure, and follows the classical Likud party tactics of subversion. Now, Trump does have some connections to Putin that the left and right do not talk about such as his Chabad Lubavitch connections and his donations to this cult, as well as Kusher's membership. This same cult brought Putin to power and was heavily involved in the KGB and Israeli Mossad. So, Trump could be playing a double bluff, but I sort of doubt that. A few of the old neocons under the bush admin hate Trump yet he still appointed Neocons, or neotrotskyites, all who are markedly Zionsit and pro-Israel. Keep in mind Trump is great friends with Benjamin Netanyahu and Larry Silverstein who most likely had a hand in the demolition of the Twin Towers as did Netanyahu who stated before 9/11 that "some democracies, [meaning the US] need to be bombed into going to war." All these necon hard-line Israel firsters all were boasting about a coming New Pearl Harbor. Also, Israel is pro Russia and in great standing with Putin. Putin was the man of the year in Israel. I think Trump is just another Israeli puppet at this point. I only see Bill Kristol, a warmonger, hating on Trump at any chance he can get. I think this too is a deception, as he now is paraded on MSNBC and CNN, where as before it was Fox News to promote the war on terror.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump: Lets take guns away before due process.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I tell you HaWhat. We get FOX and CNN off the air for six months I bet all this bickering will cut down quite a bit.

That would be something else. People might lose their minds though.

Yes, we are a corporatist country, socialism and a good welfare state for the very, very rich at low to no interest and covert feudalism for the poor and middle class.

I've noticed something recently that I'd thought I would share. I was talking to a friend about bank and corporate bailouts, which is basically just a big welfare check. He was fine that the government bailed out banks for billions of dollars, the same banks that defraud the American people and resist public banking at all costs.

Then when I talked about giving people (the lower middle class) affordable healthcare even if it is only the basics he got mad and called me a communist. You also, have one side saying medicare for all is bad and communist, and private health care is bad. Either they want to erase medicare for good, or bring in medicare for all and erase private healthcare. How about, we have medicare for all and private health insurance, however, in a good faith classical free market, so that we can choose from dozens of private healthcare at afforadable prices. And it a healthcare institution fails do not bail them out. That way we don't have one monopoly healthcare company for one state. And the healthcare companies won't take as many chances.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you against Zionists? And Jewish supremacy (NOT JEWS IN GENERAL) Because there are Jewish supremacists, and they are in high levels of our government.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

CNN and MSNBC and the USA today do too, but I don't want to do whataboutism. FOX was notorious for pushing the war on terror, but CNN and MSNBC were too. Now Fox pretends to be anti-war, whislt the necons go on to CNN and scream how much they hate Trump, the same neocons that concocted the war on terror and orchestrated a policy coup in the US. But wait, Trump surrounds himself with Neocons, it's almsot as if they're both outlets for disinformation and propaganda.

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[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

We should just elect Benjamin Netanyahu or someone in the Likud party at this point.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ADL got started by covering up a pedophile murderer, simply because he was Jewish. They blamed it on a black man instead. Trump and the necons are Judas Goats, they have hijacked nationalism, patriotism under the guise of populism.THose who got Trump into power the alt-media persons, such as Richard Spencer and even Alex Jones are Zionists who covertly support Facsist socialism and communism. Jones was advocating for that candidate to win in I forget which state, it was a Southern state though, and if you look back at his history, he claims to be a Nationalist, but he's Jewish and before he was running was a part of Communist groups and small think tanks.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, the T_D is very pro-censorship, they'll likely be censorship happy here too. They ban anyone who disagrees with their Zionist king. The left does the same with their idols.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's no traitor to Russia, red beard, but to Israel and the Zionists.

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[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stick to the pyramid of Debate. Stop using ad hominems.

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[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not all of them are Jews though. It's more akin to feudalism under a corporatocracy and false promises and lies. If people can not see that the left and right are both compromised then god help this country. I mean look at what the Obama admin did with the necons! And yet, people think he's cool and hip because he's black and talks slick. Trump is crap too. They all are.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not solely Google by the way, it is the ADL, JDIF, teaming up with Silicon Valley. It's Israel and has always been Israel and ZIonist censorship. They just give money to Google to censor.

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[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He plays stupid for a reason. Watch past interviews before he was president. His stupidity is only a distraction.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He and Kushner are chabad Lubavitchers. They were from the start controlled oppositions who's loyalities (antisemitic canard) are with Israel. The left and right are both compromised, all candidates. Including CFR member Tulsi Gabbard.

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[–]deleted 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That arrow is pointing to my volume up key..

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[–]nichos 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget that he's passed more gun legislation than Obama. Trump was a democrat all his life, and his contributions to the debt has shown that.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a refreshing read that was.

So, here's the thing only a little of my post history will tell ya. I'm gun owner, a hunter and fisherman. Give me an El Camino over a Prius any day. I have myself a Red Healer and a Neapolitan mastiff. (A duck catcher and a "I eat people" dog) And when Fall comes the entire row of this dirt road I live on Brings in their sights for hunting season. You wake up to "Pop!, Pop!, Pop!," and a cup of coffee and ya get excited for Turkey.

If I didn't open my big mouth on healthcare, or scream at Jeanine Pirro to leave the damn Mexicans alone you'd have no Idea the side of the Isle I stood on. (hell, Jeanine Pirro needs to leave everybody alone. That woman has more vitriol in her Pinky than I have in my whole body)

I see these big networks pumping out Propaganda on Both Sides. Buzz words and bright headlines and Stern people Smirking and jabbing at "journalists'' on the other side of the isle and Click bait snippets I cant even click yet cause we gotta go to see what is happening in Yemen.

That must be a happenin' city, because we are always breaking to see what is in going on in Yemen. Would it be outlandish for all of us to get out in the streets and BEG for the Fairness Doctrine back?

I see a pill in Australia costs 8 dollars. I see that same pill costs over 8k here. And Libertarians will tell you that is okay. Seems perfectly alright to some that business can have their hand elbow deep up the colon of our government, but government needs to keep its hands off business. Does that seem right to you? Citizens United has GOT to go.

Man, these are both issues that - in a year would undo a great deal of damage for this country. I dont care what side of the isle you stand on, this is bipartisan stuff I think we can all agree on. And I bet we would - but all of us are polarized.

They say:

You are "supporting a race hater and a man who acts awfully, suspiciously friendly to Putin, and verbally likes to make sweet, sweet love to Kim jong Un, and puts kids in cages without toothbrushes"

And about us:

We "just want to let any damn rapist into this country and support tearing down capitalism and want all the Jewz (kicks cat) and Mooselams to overrun Washington and have all the Gays walkin naked in Wal-mart!!"

And then here we are. Shit-posting away at each other like the guy on the other end isn't an American.

Yea, I see it. And I am aware I can be part of the problem - but give me a chance to explain: I see the Echo-Chamber T_D is at Reddit and its just - Dude that sub reads like a horror novel to me. It's like mad max over there to somebody like me who thinks Bernie has some damn good Ideas.

So you betcha, I came over here with my dukes up, Coffee in my veins and Drooling to fight a little - Cause Reddits T_D will ban you for not marching to that alt-right drum and I wanted to finally "Tell y'all Sumthin" And I Never - Never thought it would get this far. I thought I be banned and kicked from this sub faster than I got here.

I sure as hell never expected to have a conversation.

Then again - that's the whole reason for a Two Party only system, huh?

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is very stupid to want a zionist puppet being your president. This puppet will only continue to make bad decisions about the environment. Without intact nature your president and all money in the world isn't even worth to wipe your ass with. It is very stupid not to see that.

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[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There we go, closer to the real you!

For clarity, my response is topic by topic more, or less of what you wrote.

Let me address the 'arguing in good faith first'. I'm somewhat committed to my world view, at least for myself, and my bit of 'fuckoffland'(owned land). As far as my neighbors, as I've talked with my significant other, as long as they can stay to themselves, and not bother me, then I'll do the same; perhaps they'll look out for me, and my place, and I'll do the same.... color, orientation, or other need not apply for this job description. Having that said, yes, I agree I argue with left, and right alike often, and find their talking points are that of the establishment....... I could've just as easily just watched the news, or listened to an approved authority figure for better insight.

As far as race wars, and Hitler, I'd rather be doing something productive instead of worrying about who's more pure. Having that said, I find it odd that the Swastika due to Hitler is off limits to Western civilization, and whites; yet the Buddhists, and all of Southeast Asia, and differing Jewish books still use it. So odd!!! I actually like the symbol, yet the other night found myself literally hating, and researching(something I do with everyone) someone on youtube who openly displayed it. Of course, it was in a subject matter I liked, and noted his openly 'friendly' discourse; yet saw it, and felt as though this would be someone to be weary of in person; I just felt sad since as far as I know, it's the world's oldest 'sign'.

As far as homosexuals, I don't care which way someone flings their junk; I'm not all about sex anymore. In full disclosure, my brother in law is gay, and I don't speak to him anymore. I cared deeply for him, and my father in law, who were both very into make it big, or break, and break they did often. I bought a house for them to live in, yet my own finances were wearing thin, I let my own home go due to medical needs, and they, both of them, assumed I had let their home go, so quit paying the mortgage in my name....yet I was still paying...

My brother in law, told my wife that I was gay, and his lover at the time agreed. I was friends with both, and had never been around homosexuals; so my interest, was considered as being 'gay-inquisitive' by both. I explained to both that I don't know what they're thinking, but I'm not gay, but have never been around it either. The lover made an advance at one point, and I rejected. Somewhere in my financial trouble, my bro' in law, and father in law quit paying, and then I became the 'homophobe'; per my brother in law; which really hurt as I would've never let their home go.

Other than that, the only experience I had with gay was while in Guatemala. I was offered "Miss Guatemala", in exchange for gay sex with one of her handlers as long as I had a 'six pack'. I didn't of course, and never took it seriously considering my own health issues.

Both experiences were bad. Does that mean I hate gays? No, short of them screaming, 'I'm gay', I wouldn't know them; so by default they're in the group labeled 'all others than self'.

As far as injustices, oh yeah, I agree, the world past, present, and I'm sure future will hold plenty for all! My only remedy for this, is Stoicism..... I'm labeled a hater for encouraging it, yet, fuck them; I know it works.

As far as liberals, yes I see them, and dislike them as the label fits; yet at the same time, I don't fit the conservative paradigm either, and dislike what it offers as well; which means when the time is right, I'll either be the one burned at the stake(which I'm ready for), or I'll be cheering on the poor sap that's taking my place, while facing forward, walking out the back of the mob to run.

As far as healthcare, I've got a very bad life long disease. I look huge, menacing, and in many ways due to what I've encountered in my life, am tough; yet, if you actually touch me, my back, and chest are just about pure skin, and bone. Don't lecture me about alopathic healthcare; it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can get any drug known to man for pain relief due to what I've got going on, yet I desire none; I desire a cure, and lessor decent treatment. Yet, all they have to offer is bullshit, and a box to be thrown in. The best care I've gotten is from alternative care not covered by medicare. My brother the same! My message for anyone thinking a doctor is there to help you, get over it, do some research; because they're just there in the end to keep their license, and pay for med school.

I like your stance on CNN, and FOX, which brings me back to the bankers, or the fuckers in charge. At that level, you, me, or any other idiot doesn't matter. They've got their own breeding pools, and I lean towards thinking they've got their own literal sex clones, or their own amusement clones..... Or more to the not too far out, they've definitely got slaves; problem is, those people aren't just white; Just saying!

I do believe their 'relief' in life is pitting common people against common people; never aware they're the puppeteers.

Sleep well, and have a good shift(I assume).

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know... Sometimes I come into these debates and I am just used to people not arguing in good faith. It's not you. I dont know you.

I know a kid shot up a church to start a race war. I know a man long ago killed a who bunch of Jews, and yet I have had the honor and privilege of sitting at a table during Passover. The world wants to hold homosexuals to account because they think it is a lifestyle and a choice and they call it immoral. I had a gay couple introduce me to a beautiful girl I dated for almost 3 years. And dont even get me started on my time living in the south. Who'd of thought I'd miss Kudzu?

I see a lot of things - a lot of injustice right now. And I'm not happy about it. And I want it to get better.

For all of us.

That's how I feel.

I see what they call liberals on FOX and how unpatriotic we are, Hate America - Communist.

Because I want our grandparents and kids to have affordable healthcare I'm communist. Because I want the money I paid into with Social Security - I'm a communist. Because I call out that this is no longer a capitalist country but a corporatist country Im a communist.

So no. I dont come into many of these talks pulling punches. I have always liked a good fight.

So are you always seeing the real me here? Of course not. I have no Idea if I'm seeing the real you.

I tell you HaWhat. We get FOX and CNN off the air for six months I bet all this bickering will cut down quite a bit.

But thats it. I got up at five yesterday morning and Ill be up at five today. I'm out.

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[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree, and find it telling that you resort to that; especially when your 1st response to me, actually misquotes what I wrote, and has your own screed in place. I mean, do I call you, 'fraud', and define that? As a response?

I'm looking for any common ground, and yet, 'strawman' is your response, somewhat telling.

The title of this thread is 'this many people want trump to be president'. You obviously disagree, with all your fevered typing, surely you have someone in mind; who, and why? Did you support Hillary? Do you believe in the left, and right paradigms? How do you feel about big corporations?

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[–]34679 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That party is just getting started.

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I note you 'quote' your own words from the start, which make them look like mine. For now, I'll guess that was an accident.

Overall, I like you're dedication to at least fight; bravo. But, fight who, I note, as so do you, that you paint broad 'groupings'; in that, 'if you disagree, then you're one of those'. Am I wrong, if not, then I've got to fully disagree with you.

As far as echo chambers, I can turn on my MSM right now, and they'll echo exactly what you say, and have a million people following suit; at least by way of the TV. And I just don't buy it.

I've got my own opinions on most fronts, and am not accepted by the right, or left. My ideas are too extreme for acceptance in either I guess; yet, I see your posts, and think. When reading them, I see you own up to being a bigot(I learned a bigot, is a bigot, and bad); yet you claim some sort of superiority in the line of bigotry; I just find it odd.

What comes to mind overall, and I mean no offense, is almost the classical 'homophobe', where by you hate, what you hold dear at heart; just changing the flavor so as to not be noticed. Not saying you are, I don't know you, but it's what comes to mind.

Bah, at times I think a 'get to know you' post would be good, but then again, you, and I both know that would be used against said party. What I can relay to you are my views. Here goes.

I hate no one. A Helping Hand has no orientation, color, or religious preference; I mean a helping hand at the moment of death; we all would reach, and whomever grabs, would be the saving hand.

Aside from that though, yes, I'm biased by life, as all people are; anyone who states they're not, are lying to everyone, and themselves. My biases are only in regards to my moment of life, or survival, however you want to look at it.

Overall, I believe in a live, and let live strategy; do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.

RESPECT, universal respect is huge on my list. Not so much looking for a friend, but negating a new enemy. I've noted black, white, brown, asian people I've known can hold these values; my verdict is out on the Jews, as I'm not sure. The reason I'm not sure, is I've got some Jew, yet, at the same time, Jews are some of the most racist people I've met, and often times due to not being 'full', or exactly white, seemingly treat me with less. You seem to be verbose with your opinions, how do you feel about how Israel treats the Palestinians, or the fact that all none Jews are called Goyem?

I guess I've said as much as I want for now, but as far as 'quarter', meaning as in shelter for others, or myself, I would always have a keen, savvy, and aware open door, yet, am ready for the not so good, and necessary actions for those I care about, and myself.

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Straw Man

A fallacy is an argument or belief based on erroneous reasoning. Straw man is one type of logical fallacy. Straw man occurs when someone argues that a person holds a view that is actually not what the other person believes. Instead, it is a distorted version of what the person believes. So, instead of attacking the person's actual statement or belief, it is the distorted version that is attacked.

That's you. That is what you do.

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[–]JollyRunstride 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. Have you ever listened to him speak? Worse the Goearge W.(maybe). Certainly don't want all those pedophiles tho... Maybe the answer is some collectivized non-obligatory(free participation) form of coopertion?

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

cheer on subjugation of others views You mean I get a big ol' freedom hard on every time one of you bigots with anti gay anti race bigoted views loses a platform? Oh you bet your ass I do.

Now - if they actually tried to change the the first amendment to not allow Bigotry and racism, gay bashing - whatever. Well me and you both would be at the same picket line. But Nobody has to give racist fucks a platform. You can go find or make your own platforms all you like - but NOBODY has to GIVE you a soap box (guess what, that is part of the first amendment too!! Isn't that neat?). Racists seem to think they are the silent Majority in this country and I love to watch them learn THAT JUST AINT TRUE :D.

you like to throw out the term bigot; yet I looked that up, and you match the definition to a T; interesting.

You are Correct: I am bigoted against: Racist Bigots, and Gay Bashing Bigots, and most, but not all Trump supporting Bigots. That is a personal quirk I see no moral reason to rectify at this juncture. I'm just gonna keep hating Racists, and gay Bashers and anti-Semites. So go ahead and put a little mark on your chalkboard cause: Ya GOT me!

Can I come to a middle? Yes. My Step father is a lovely man and a Conservative. We come to middle grounds in our infrequent debates. My Step brother as well. Although it might get a bit more heated - at least we can agree to disagree.

(sometimes I say "You" as a generalization as pertaining to the conversation, I dont know your personal views, Im just trying to answer your questions here)

Having said that, you know its hard to find a middle ground with some of you Trump Fanatics. Some openly defend racist antisemitic views, and I feel that when you can stand there and say "I'm Evil and proud of it" - That is a statement of 'No Quarter' and you pretty much tell me you have no morals and declare open season on yourself.

So if you want to Gay bash, Race Bash, Jew bash, I'm going to fight for your right to do it... In your own quiet little echo chambers away from the Decent folk of society. You shouldn't be arrested for it, you should still be able to make your little awful publications... In the dark, behind closed doors afraid like the little roaches you are. You can have your own little personal Taliban's away from good folk.

The world needs to move on from racist bullshit. Shooting up churches to start race wars needs to stop.

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yet he elected NOT to strike Iran last week, after they shot down a 100 million dollar spy drone. Hillary would have launched nukes, you know it.

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[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Today was my last day on Reddit. They, (((goog))), Yahoo, Washington Post, and many others are doing all they can to suppress Repub/right commentary. I am encouraging as many people as I can to switch to Saidit.

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

:D

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[–]HeyImSancho 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I've noted that strong leaning democrats are following the 'redneck revolt', or 'john brown militia' style. Basically, on some topics, where they think they can find common ground to relate. They do so to subvert, and silence others that either are very intimidated, or more so, unwilling to betray what they may consider a friend.

Usually though, they don't stray to far from the big banker, or communist narrative.

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[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think so, I've searched their posts, and read quite a few; they're varying shades of, 'I'm like you', but the real ringer is that they follow the Leftist/communist agendas quite thoroughly. I guess their next stop will be the killing fields of Pol Pot v2.0., or so they envision.

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[–]EverybodyKnew 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty sure he's retarded or a troll.

Or he's John Brennan.

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[–]HeyImSancho 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've actually followed, or delved into a little of what you write, and you contradict yourself quite a bit.

You proclaim to be about freedom, and hate corporations, yet at the same time, cheer on the giant Alphabet, as well as cheer on subjugation of others views....

I thought about what you've written quite a bit, and noticed you like to throw out the term bigot; yet I looked that up, and you match the definition to a T; interesting.

I guess there's no middle ground in your worldly view, or am I wrong?

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[–]Snow 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want Trump to be president.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Appreciated :D

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

upvoted for the star trek reference, lol

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

YOU WOULD BE INCORRECT MEATBAG. I TOO AM AN UGLY GIANT BAG OF MOSTLY WATER. FELLOW HUMAN, MODIFY YOUR SYNTAX TO BE LESS ACCUSATORY.

KINDEST REGARDS, ~A FELLOW HUMAN BEING.

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[–]IndianaCrohns 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Worshipping your rulers is stupid, but we actually like free speech here, so welcome.

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well your user name certainly checks out. I wish your parents loved you enough to teach you better. But you are probably bot. I expect a lot of bots from over at T_D to come here and brigade now, since they wont work over on reddit.

Well, even if you are human you sound programmed. Whatevs.

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[–]trulyascumbag 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

he's a jewish dog, which is worse.

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh. Wait. Did FOX snewz not tell you? They leave out a lot of things. I mean, they leave out a LOT of things, but you would never know.

Here, let me help:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/25/robert-mueller-testify-before-two-key-house-committees-july-17/1566706001/

You. Are. Welcome.

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[–]ArkansasJack_Ass 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

What year are you typing this from?

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[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That Traitor Russian Dog aint my president. The Liar in Thief can be yours all day long though, comrade! Enjoy!

Muller's a Comin' BTW

Cant wait for that day :D

It's Muller Time!!

Whats he gonna do about Hucka-sands to tell his lies? ANOTHER RAT jumped the ship.

I dont know if he's gonna get that eight whole years you guys have been braggin' about.

Might just get Tarred and feathered out of office.

Wonder if they will have that on Pay-Per-View?

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[–]IamRedBeard 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Congratulations on your Reddit ban. Man I see the count is way down over there.

Oh yea, the Russian Bots dont have verified emails and cant participate just now.

Sad.

You guys must be feelin' lonely :D

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[–]34679 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Trump is just as bad as Obama was. Continued wars that do nothing to serve the interests of the American people. Hard pass.

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[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Jessica Ashooh is currently the Director of Policy, Reddit, Inc. She's got a very interesting background/resume that can be found with a quick search.

Well, shortly before taking her position at Reddit HQ, she was on Al Jezeera et. al. calling for the US to arm anti-Russian/Syrian forces as part of her gig as Deputy Director, Middle East Strategy Task Force for The Atlantic Group. She reported directly to co-chairs, Madeleine Albright (Clinton Sec. of State 1997-2001) and Stephen Hadley (W. Bush Nat. Security Advisor 2005-2009).

Dig a bit into The Atlantic Group and you find some interesting money behind it:

Before working directly for Soros, she spent 4 years as a Senior Analyst for the United Arab Emirates Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The year and half before that she was employed as a "Subject Matter Expert" for Eurasia Group - specifically on the subjects of Iraq, Lebanon, and Iran.

She spent 6 months prior to that working as a Consultant for Dunia Frotier Consultants in Erbil, Iraq - advising the Kurdistan Regional Government.

She's also a Board member of No One Left Behind: http://nooneleft.org/ A veteran-led charity focused on securing visas for and resettling Iraqi and Afghani combat interpreters who served with US forces - an admirable position to hold, but odd in the mix.

Isn't it kind of odd that someone with that kind of resume ends up policing funny cat pics and brownie recipes being posted on Reddit?