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[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Actually, feeding animals takes about 10 times as many plants compared to eating them directly.

[–]shtposter9000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So we should eat meat?

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, because that kills both more animals and more plants than just eating plants directly, as well as taking more resources in general.

[–]shtposter9000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/A-baby-kept-on-a-vegan-diet-died-His-parents-14855623.php Kids would literally die eating such low protein. I bet most vegans cheat their diet so they can stay alive.

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They should have high-protein foods like beans, then. Maybe in this isolated case a child died on a vegan diet, but in the vast majority of cases children don't, and I'm pretty sure in this case the issue was more not having enough food than the food being vegan. Meat is not a necessity; I was actually a lot more underweight before I became vegan than after, and this wasn't because I became vegan, but because I actually started eating enough.

[–]shtposter9000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I understand most cases kids don't die. But from what I read mongolians literally destroyed the chinese dynasties because of this diet. Mongolians could go days without eating having a high protein diet while the chinese were weak from eating rice and soy. https://i.imgur.com/QjPW9no.jpg

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, I've seen that image before… Aha; that's literally the image we are commenting on ^m^ !

I think I already commented it, but just rice and soy still isn't as as good as a more wholesome vegan diet, with soy, beens, vegatables, and grains. Yes, perhaps the high-protein Mongolian diet was very healthy, and certainly more healthy than only rice and soy, but that doesn't mean a vegan diet can't be the same with enough planning. I could make a similar point to the opposite: Just because these vegan bodybuilders are more healthy than someone who eats omnivorous McDonald's food all the time, doesn't mean the omnivores who eat McDonalds are less healthy due to being omnivorous. Lots of factors go into a healthy diet, not just whether someone eats meat or not.