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[–]369 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Ha you're doing pretty well.
I can share a few of my favorites with you, which I've been employing for a little while:

Coincidence Theorist

Should be pretty obvious - counters the Mockingbird rhetoric shaping instrument designed to obscure meaningful communication about JFK, "Conspiracy Theorist".

Cope Rope

This one is sort of nuanced but I use it to mock people who will inevitably cope by roping (committing suicide by hanging themselves). Naturally, I don't wish suicide upon anyone.
Normally used as a noun.

Wage Cage

Someone's job, which they desperately need because they're too incompetent to make their own money for themselves.

Faggot and Nigger are both interchangeable at this point. They no longer have any meaning and are just used to describe an "undesirable" or valueless person.
They're used to trigger people with a retardation barrier that prevents abstract thought, which would alleviate the negative connotation if they could think more clearly. Unfortunately, I'm not sure they help that much at this point because it doesn't disrupt their thought patterns and instead just makes them automatically jump right to the next phase of the loop, which is basically just "attack people that say nigger or faggot".

I can't really think of more at the moment.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Fanfuckingtastick examples!

The wage cage is great, though you might be a little hard on those poor debt slaves who may or may not actually be incompetent.

I'm most definitely not a fan of "faggot", "nigger", or "kike". Completely unimaginative and burdened with too much baggage - and very divisive, partisanly. Edgelords may rule in their echochambers but appear like triggerhappy Neanderthals to everyone else. It's not communication if it's a nuclear trigger, and to feign ignorance or anything else is disingenuous. If one must, other neutral terms suffice, like "cuck". IMO, I'd much rather insult or be insulted by creative wit than unimaginative banal slurs.

I have yet to actually use storyotype anywhere, but it seems like it's ripe with potential.

Another one I hear a lot, a portmanteau of hope + opium, especially regarding Q-Anon and/or this "temporary" mask lockdown tyranny:

Hopium

[–]369 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

though you might be a little hard on those poor debt slaves who may or may not actually be incompetent.

You have to be. If they aren't provoked, there's a slim chance they'll figure out how they can conquer their reluctant prison.

I'm most definitely not a fan of "faggot", "nigger", or "kike". Completely unimaginative and burdened with too much baggage - and very divisive, partisanly. Edgelords may rule in their echochambers but appear like triggerhappy Neanderthals to everyone else. It's not communication if it's a nuclear trigger, and to feign ignorance or anything else is disingenuous. If one must, other neutral terms suffice, like "cuck". IMO, I'd much rather insult or be insulted by creative wit than unimaginative banal slurs.

The idea is to exercise them out of the thought bubble where words are scary. Calling each other niggers even though we know both parties aren't black is the type of irony that triggers deeper thought in ones that can manage it. Unfortunately, I also observe that this is sort of low hanging fruit and it's more for comical exercises at this point than it is about deep and valuable provocation that leads to meaningful developments in deprogramming.
Just food for thought at this point: the kind of reaction you gave is exactly the reason no one has abandoned it. The accusations of it being low hanging fruit will get you piled on just to trigger you... unfortunately.
Maybe I'm selling out, but, "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

Hopium is only recently hitting normiewaves
Don't give up on the Q thing quite so quickly. The whole point is that no one will benefit until they are moved/agitated to the point that they finally overcome the boredom or lack of attention span that's preventing them from finding out more truths. Too many smoothbrains have weighed in on interpreting Q things. Normies latched on to either comical interpretations designed to fuck with people (trolls) or feds/think tanks/shareblue interns that did a demoralization LARP where they predicted something would happen on a date (despite being nonsensical), baiting normies in to building expectations, only to leave them shattered and bewildered once the "prediction" came and went.
Besides, it's been two years and the rhetoric switched rapidly from "lol that's just some fat virgins in their mom's basement who're off their Risperdal" to "THESE HENIOUS EVIL-DOERS HAVE CONVINCED THE PROUD BOYS TO STORM THE CAPITOL! ET THEM!" and I just can't accept that it's just a coincidence. First they're impotent virgins that can't get a job and now they're masterminds that convinced fat boomers to inform to the FBI and "instigate a riot"? I can't buy that.

Didn't mean to rant about the Q thing though. I like what you're doing despite how you feel about any of that and don't think our disagreement is valuable to hang on to.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I agree that the debt-slave wage caged sheeple need to wake the flock up, but insulting them will get you nowhere. I can easily imagine a million ways people, wise or not, get overwhelmed, oppressed, and/or trapped - not by incompetency.

Certainly shock treatment can disrupt some people out of their habitual thought patterns, but you simply can't expect force everyone to break free of their deep seated brainwashing with offensive ideas. The other day /u/bobbobbybob freaked out because I was throwing "gay sand" around. Sure I was hoping he'd snap out of his prudery but it never works. The more he got upset the more "creative" I got, amusing myself into being blocked. His loss, and my own, for short term Tomfoolery. I'm not gay, but every time someone expresses hyper-sensitivity about ass play I admit, I've enjoyed escalating it in creatively twisted literary ways. I can and must do better, even if they can't. You won't excise (nor "exercise") your grandma's puritan manners by "ironically" calling her a whore and forcing her to watch porn.

I'd argue that your "low hanging fruit" has been rotting on the ground for years and is part of the toxicity corrupting our culture.

Q is a conspiretarded distraction waste of time. There's zero need for all the cloak and dagger dramatic bullshit. Speak shit plainly or get off the pot. More importantly, develop alternatives and solutions. You're quite correct that the political theater is no coincidence, nor is Q, nor is the divisive incendiary culture. Social engineering and manufactured dissent is always keeping us from fighting the ruling class and their establishment matrix of rigged systems, the real enemies. Focus your well-warranted skepticism on the target, not on Q, nor on the left-right chaos.

[–]369 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Heh I was around when it kicked off on /pol/. I can understand the confusion, it being nearly three and a half years later.
I don't really blame you for being skeptical in its current state. I've found a lot of value in the people that go there and a lot of the discussion. They also make very interesting connections that you can see before other people put them together. For about two years now, I could go and see what they were discussing, have a good grasp of the topic, go and briefly explain it to someone and then have them come back to me and say, "hey, I saw that thing you were talking about on the news. I had no idea what you meant, but it makes so much more sense now!"
Bear in mind, the people that go to QR are just /pol/acks and normies we reluctantly let hang out with us.
Oh, and Militaries have, for quite some time, utilized coded communications so that adversaries weren't sure about what they were discussing, as have plenty of other organizations.

The thing about provocation is most people don't see it as being very valuable. Oddly, that's how we got Trump elected though. This helps us explain why memes were potent - they helped people question their beliefs. What you do is you force them in to getting worked up over something that upsets them and then they think about it for a while, rationalizing in circles. The hope is that it gets through to some people and they eventually start questioning what they really know.
I get that it seems unconventional. It's weird, but it's pretty helpful if you can use it properly. This is why Trump was so successful, mind you.

I'd argue that your "low hanging fruit" has been rotting on the ground for years and is part of the toxicity corrupting our culture.

Yeah, I understand. I just don't feel righteous about it or anything. Calling people niggers is a great way to test sentiments of free speech, it's a great way to defend against people wanting to impede on rights and it, due to what was explained above, helps people deprogram a bit because it helps to detach the racial connotations with the word.
Or it used to, at least.
Besides, mocking and shaming are pretty useful socialization tactics.

I do see where you're coming from with all of this though. You have an interesting perspective and I'm glad you showed me the post, considering I think about these things a lot.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I remember the early days of Q too. I didn't examine the releases, but for a while I followed several who followed closely. Their helpful contextual analysis were tremendously insightful.

Most importantly it was clear to discerning eyes that there were initially at least 3 "personalities" of Q in the early days as the psyop project evolved - each with different styles, motives, and goals. Anyone who can't see this is trapped in the blind faith Q delusion dogma.

You don't need Q or memes to understand why Trump was selected. He's popular be cause the shit choices offered with shitty media offering lots of information void of contextual understanding left a vast vacuum to gobble up a spoiled brat / TV game show host and a bunch of joke panels sarcastically resonating with moderately informed lowbrows as a new efficient mode of communication.

I agree that challenging humour can help break through firm beliefs to introduce skepticism, questions, and doubt. That's much different than challenging with offending content (slurs, porn, gore, etc).

It's obvious many folks use the taboo N word as a baseline test. IMO, you need a better test. The baseline tests that I respect are the taboo topics: 1) 9/11 was a globalist job, 2) the climate change scam, and 3) the great Holocaust exaggeration. If they can't even admit the first (or discuss it), then they're not informed and aware (or are held/holding back). The second was personally my greatest hurdle. The third was easier but more taboo to me, but once I dared to look at "Nazi-think" it became quickly obvious, and by that time it was clear for me that all of MSM is a lie.

IMO, it's better to use free speech to challenge taboo ideas than to call people taboo insults. Depends who you're mocking and shaming - always only punch up, and aim for their balls and vital organs.

Also, IMO, it's easy and lame to destroy, and conversely it's worth trying to examine the world, circumstances, and myself to figure out how things can be better and improved.

Q hopium is dangerous:
/s/conspiracy/comments/7e2j/i_react_to_a_q_pusher_reacting_to_my_video/

[–]369 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Most importantly it was clear to discerning eyes that there were initially at least 3 "personalities" of Q in the early days as the psyop project evolved - each with different styles, motives, and goals. Anyone who can't see this is trapped in the blind faith Q delusion dogma.

Yeah, I've heard people say this, but never understood why they said this. Maybe you mean the different tripcodes that were used. There are different types of messages, but I'm certain the pattern we're noticing there has to do with who the message is for.
As I said, communicating in code isn't new and it's not that difficult to spot. "That's just nonsense designed to confuse people" seems convenient to me.

offending people is bad

I don't see why anyone thinks this, frankly. I see a lot of value in "offending people" and I think anyone that wears their ego so blatantly deserves to have it challenged.
There's nothing you or anyone else could ever say or do that would offend me. The concept seems entirely foreign to me.
I'm not really even sure what the word means at this point. Does it mean "say a mean thing to me"? Does it mean "harm my honor"? It just feels like we're language policing.

Jordan Sather

Ouch. I get it - you were never very involved in discussion and probably never even stepped foot in QR, but "e-celebs" are not very well received on any chan, let alone /pol/ or QR. To be blunt, anyone that has any sort of personality associated with any communication they make about Q shouldn't receive any of your faith.

The problem I continue to find is that most who discuss anything related to Q don't exactly capture the sentiments that most anons harbor and they even more rarely understand what's really being said.
To add a little more: Q never needed Trump. It wasn't about Trump doing anything in particular and we largely just recognized Trump as a distraction, a very helpful one. Additionally, most agree Q is indeed a psyop. Unfortunately, they don't agree that all psyops are bad. See Cicada 3301 and its aftermath for instance. That's a pretty deep rabbit hole though.

Don't feel insulted by this or anything. I think most were purposefully lead astray when it came to this whole situation.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dark Web: Cicada 3301, an upcoming film inspired by the organization, is scheduled for release in 2021.

Chances are high it will be the usual tripe, but 'it is habbening'.

Speaking of personalities associated with communications about "Q", serialbrain2 is definitely king of b̵̸͙̅̽͡ͅă̶̸̝ͦ͊̿͋͞t̴͕͖͓̀s̩͙͖̋͛͟h̶̯̰̝̻̿̓͢i̵͓͙̱͚̎͟t̴͕͖͓̀ mountain.

[–]369 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Tranissary and Transtrender also need to be added, especially since they trigger the correct audience.

[–]369 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh!

Femcel

I forgot about this one.
It's pretty much an "incel" counter. Which, don't get me wrong, calling men incels is probably very helpful because it moves them to change.