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[–]jet199 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (15 children)

Did they throw too many gays of the roof?

[–]Jesus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

^ ^ ^ Zionist Jew above me.

Paypal censors palestinians like they did to me when I bought Christopher Bollyn's book, becaude they are in-bed openly with the anti-goyite ADL, which is a Jewish supremacist organization.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I mean my sister can't use paypal because someone hacked her ebay account and started money laundering through it around 10 years ago. Really their security is a blunt tool and not good enough for a business which wants to become ubiquitous.

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    [–]jet199 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

    I don't mind being called a zionist but I'm only 2% Jewish which I don't think is really enough to be Jewish.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    It absolutely is. It should be 0% otherwise there is a risk we get subverted

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Don't you have to meet all of the special criteria? Something something mother's side, circumcisions, no one gives a shit about you if you're female other than carrying the lineage, etc?

    [–]Rob3122 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    No, he's not. He's just someone who can identify the cancer of the human race.

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        [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        1 meter

        [–]Rob3122 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah, what was I thinking? Surely it's not the people who own and run damn near every bank in our country and therefore have total control over the entire population. Surely it's not the people who own the media/Hollywood/and internet who shape public opinion to the point they say dumb shit like "the cancer of the human race is racist and bigoted satanists".

        [–]hydr0lyze 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        this is awesome, i nearly learned something from the MTV

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        How's the gay life in tel Aviv?

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Lolol.. Jesus, for shame.

        [–]hennaojichan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        PayPal sucks and they are not your friend.

        [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

        Isn't crazy that Zionists are a subset of a minority population of Jews yet they are all over saidit.

        [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (27 children)

        Jesus was a jew.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Not a Zionist, though; he basically said to pay taxes to Caesar in Mark 12:13-17. For obvious reasons, the Zealots (who were the closest thing to Zionists back then) didn't want to do that. Also, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't approve of Israel's treatment of Palestinians; see Mark 12:31.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Kind of like now. Zionist plutocrats don't pay taxes and Jesus didn't want the poor to follow them. He wanted a brotherhood of those doing good for Christ for the less fortunate and lowly.

        [–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        mind blown

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

        Jesus was not a jew. Jews didn't exist in biblical tiems and is a apellation for Pharisitical converts who jesus rebuked and hated for their lies.

        [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

        What color is the sky in your world?

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        Go away Zionist Jew.

        [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        As a Christian, I'm not going away.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Stop supporting degenerate Zionism and communism and all isms then.

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          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Isms are isms. Believein God and follow Him. His law is above all Isms.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

          Jesus was NOT a JEW, period. Only idiots who lack biblical knowledge think he was or Zionsit Jews trying to make Jesus into someone he was not.

          [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          What was he then you fuckwit?

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Part 1

          /u/socks We've gone over this!

          You're not a Christian using that kind of language. Jesus was a Judahite Hebrew and a Galilean. Abraham was neither Jew either. The term Jew is a made up 15th century term used to describe converts to the Talmudic, anti-Christ, Zoharic, Cabalistic doctrine of the rabbinate oral law. Modern Jews are Khazars (Ashkenazi), Edomites (conquered by Ashkenaz (non-Semite) rabbi in 127AD), enforced rabbinate conversion; and Canaanites. Did Jesus preach the Talmud, Halakha, Zohar and Lurianic Cabala? No, he did not! Jews are not Judahite Hebrews, they are Jew(ish), meaning they practice – if we were to create a realistic definition – the religion of the Pharisees that Jesus rebuked (with added anti-Christ books as converts) or are just culturally Ashkenazi or Sephardi, meaning Atheistic/Deist and are non-Semitic as evidenced by Paul Wexler's studies. Hence, Jews are a mix of Edomites who were force-converted by Hyrcanus - plus Turkic Khazarians. Not Abrahamic at all.

          The term "Jew” falsely represents the tribe of Judea/Judahite Hebrews as well as a term people use falsely to describe all tribes. The term Jew has been hijacked to muddy the water and makes those who hijacked it seem Hebrew so they could steal Palestine, hence the forced use of modern Hebrew upon the incorporation of counterfeit Israel LLC. Therefore, today the term Jew does NOT represent a person from the tribe of Judah.

          Hence, what I’m saying is that Jesus was NOT a Jew. He was a Judahite. All the other Hebrew Tribes had their own names, but they’re commonly referred to as Hebrews or Israelites. The Judahites were also Hebrews, hence Judahite Hebrews.

          Today, Jews are those who converted to Pharisaism/Rabinism.

          The fact that the Judahites killed Jesus is a HISTORICAL fact that many Christians for some strange reason don’t like to hear.

          I suspect Zionist-compromised preachers have been brainwashing the flock to get those today who call themselves Jews “out of the hook” of killing Jesus, while these impostors, who are pretending to be Hebrews, get to keep their “chosen people” status. In other words, they want the benefit of being seen as something they’re not, without the guilt (i.e., they want to have their cake and eat it too).

          Still, the Judahite Hebrews killed Jesus. It’s BIBLICAL and HISTORICAL. It HAPPENED.

          https://biblicisminstitute.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/judeans.jpg?w=300&h=180

          Not one person who calls himself a Jew today can trace his ancestry to Abraham or Jacob: 1) he cannot prove which Hebrew tribe he’s from, and 2) a Jew is only a non-Hebraic convert to the faith of the Pharisees of old.

          As a result, the Israel of today – created in 1948 on the stolen land of Palestine – is an impostor state that is not the same as the Israel of the bible.

          All the promises, they’ve already been fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ, ie., the New Covanent. The old is made obsolete and withered away. That’s why Jesus sent the Apostles to the Tribes of Israel, first, and then to the rest of the world.

          “salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Judahite, then to the Gentile.” Romans 1:16

          Further, there weren’t just blessings in the Law, there were also curses in store for the Tribes for their disobedience – everyone overlooks those.

          Then, Jesus rewrote the Law and the promises. See it here. Everything from the Old Covenant has to be filtered now through the New, as the Old covenant became obsolete along with all so-called promises that people read into them and which no longer apply since they’re already fulfilled.

          “By calling this covenant ‘new,’ he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete is outdated.” Hebrews 8:13

          OBSOLETE = DONE, NO MORE, FINITO. And that goes also for all the so-called “promises” that people misunderstand and take out of context.

          “There is neither Judahite nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3: 28 I'm sure this is the services Jesus rendered to the faux Chosenites, right?:

          'Clever' distinctions make all the difference. When you make a law giving your ruling cabal the right to stab a common Jew to death on the holiest day of the year, make sure you call it "stab", not "slaughter"

          https://saidit.net/media/BMOucEuxCTRwIdhh2qY_BqRxFwoQM2_12bAMU5kXjZE.jpg

          https://www.sefaria.org/Pesachim.49b.4?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en

          Sage "scholars" of Yahweh the Merciful:

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhXaD8nU4AE8FaU.png

          Such nice rabbis!

          Therefore, it is fallacious to even compare modern Jewry to biblical Israel. Jesus was a Judahite Hebrew Galilean and ethnic descendant of King David, who was also, like Abraham, NOT JEWISH. Some DNA does postulate that a small amount of 'Jews' have DNA evidence which might stem from semitic Israel but this is likely due to a rabbinic Jew who went to Edom and areas in Judea and conquered and forcibly converted a great many natives there to rabinnic 'Judaism' IN 127 AD.

          Jesus wasn't liberal either, nor conservative nor did he push any ism like a grifter would. He was the son of God and perfect.

          It is important to state that Jew(ish) People have not rejected Jesus. They simply haven’t heard a Gospel message.

          That would be correct, but for those in Him there is neither Judahite, which modern Jews (as gentiles) have hijacked (the word Jew was put in the bible for British Israelism under King James) ; nor Greek or Roman in Him. For man is created in the image of God and those who deny God worship race, the Flesh, like naturalist Jews, Zionists, and their naturalist opposites National Socialists. That is why people like the 'Jew' Edomite 'Christian' Dr. Michael Brown is a fraud. Not only does he grift off the bible but he buys into so much political buffonery and on top of that actually promotes the depraved 'Jewish' lurianic cabala on his Christian audience. Hence, there is no identity other than renouncing all ISM’s for the gift of Christ.

          The Jewish people did not exist during Jesus' time because modern Jewry is a tribal and universal construct and in no way similar to ‘Judaism’ (originally just a word to describe the study of Judahite Hebraic culture by Christians, which was hijacked by Jews). In fact, modern 'Judaism' (in other words Rabinism) is newer than the worship and following of Christ. Modern Jews hijacked the word Judahite and Judaism just like how Zionist Jews and non-Jews hijacked and monopolized the word Semitic to mean anti-Jew, where they claim anyone who is anti-Zionist/anti-Jewish supremacy is anti-Semitic, forgetting that Arabs and Palestinians for the most part are Semitic! Not that any of these genealogies matter to me.

          ...took place in the Land of Israel— the Land of the Jews. Jesus was a Jew.

          Wrong, the land of Israel was not the land of the Jews. That would be Edom and areas in what is now Russia and Syria. The word Jew did not exist.

          He declared Himself the Messiah of Israel.

          Of Israel, which is not the modern Jewish nation. As I've said the entire construct is a false dichotomy based on hijacked identity. It goes like this: You are not Jewish (modern definition) if you believe in Christ. You reject ‘Judaism’ (modern rabbinism), you reject identity and follow him for neither Judahite, Greek or Roman in Christ.

          Now, this might be a shock but how could the Jews kill Jesus if Jews didn't exist? We can only go by the religion of the Judahite Hebrews that Jesus often talked to and rebuked.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Part 2

          /u/socks

          Replacement Theology, [according to Jews] is an erroneous doctrine claiming the Jews are under eternal punishment and have been replaced by the Church.

          That's not replacement theology. RT purports that Jesus fulfilled the law and in Him is the only law that must be followed in spirit and faith. The new covenant supersedes the old and the old withers away, as God proclaims with authority in the bible.

          Replacement theology has nothing to do with the church vs. Israel like Zionist apologists commonly utilize as a strawman.

          Dr. Michael Brown, an alleged 'Jewish' 'Christian,' who has pride in his MODERN JEW(ISH) heritage and counterfeit Israel LLC foudned by the sword and bomb, tells us that God proclaimed Israel as the rightful land for Jews; all of it and for nobody else and that if one wants to possess the land with Jews, they must be circumcised. Apparently, Brown glossed over the verse that says those in Christ are ‘circumcised’ of the heart.

          Does Dr. Michael Brown sound like a follower of Christ or a modern Jew holding onto his tradition? He certainly does not sound like a follower of Christ. What Brown gets wrong is that God proclaimed Israel the right of those in Christ through FAITH. Israel is in fact faith in HIM. Modern Jews are not Semitic nor are they Israelis or Judahites, etc. They have no right to pillage, plunder and kill and rape natives of their livelihood because God supposedly proclaimed so. Jesus fulfilled desire for land, for the gentile, Roman, Greek and Judahite Hebrew, then, and gentile and the tribalism and universality of Jews now.

          Political Zionists are the antisemites because Jew were never a race who God promised a land for their flesh only.

          Zionists made it a race to try make themselves the DOOR to heaven on earth. God tells you [replace the word Jew in every verse with Judahite] :

          Romans 2:28 (KJV)

          For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

          Romans 2:29 (KJV)

          But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

          Jews, like Dr. Michael Brown are using the race card while claiming if you don't agree that God is racist, then you are going against God.

          But Jesus said:

          John 18:36 (KJV)

          Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

          The people who made Jew a flesh thing, for the most part are converts who practice some and more of the same anti-Christ teachings that killed Jesus (as God intended for) to keep their earthly position and have since told everyone that they are chosen whether even outside of Christ, which is a blasphemous joke. Jesus is the elect and chosen and anyone can be IN HIM by believing the gospel that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose the 3rd day. Faith in Him will come with good deeds!

          Ephesians 1:4 (KJV)

          According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

          Luke 23:35 (KJV)

          And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided [him], saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.

          1 Peter 2:6 (KJV)

          Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

          That is why the bible--the one not perverted--says:

          Isaiah 45:17 (KJV)

          [But] Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

          Hence, Israel is not a piece of land, God is not a land speculator like the Rothschilds, Schiffs or Herzl was! No, God has told us that Israel is spirit, it is from His son who walked upon earth to teach all nations "The Way", some followed him, many did not!

          Today, if you preach His word in counterfeit Israel, you are stoned and spat on. That Israel is NOT THE CHURCH it is those person rich in their hearts who are obedient towards Yeshua who preach the Gospel." Any person, any nation can be grafted in, but the modern secular state of Israel founded on Jewish terrorism is not the Israel of God.

          Don't be fooled. The US, Britain are really behind this false carnal racist Zionism, which is why they are making Jews "white" and trying to do DNA testing despite:

          Titus 3:9 (KJV)

          But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

          It wasn’t the Jews as a whole who killed Jesus…

          Not exactly, it cannot be! But converts to Rabbinism certainly practice the anti-Christ teachings of the Pharisees.

          I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Judahite Hebrews [now says Jews; basically still applies] and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

          Meaning those who followed Jesus were a small following of Romans, other tribal groups, Judahite Hebrews etc., but they gave up their identities to follow Him. Modern Zionist Jews, and their Jewish dupes have hijacked the Judahite Hebrew identity to steal the land of Israel as their own. They will continue to use this construct to maintain their nationstate corporation. Many Judahite Hebrews went on to follow Christ and they revoked there identities completely, all of them did, for they were ONE with CHRIST. The Jews today who do not follow what Jesus preached are anti-Christ. It's that simple. Is that Anti-Judaic? no, because the Jews today are not really Judaic, Judahites or followers of Judaism, which doesn’t represent modern rabbinism due to the passing of time and additions of all kinds of new doctrines. (I’ve gone over this: Edomites, Ashkenaz, Ashkenazi, non-Semites, Turkic-Asiatic, possibly some Canaanites, Khazars, Rabbinites, Rabbinism, Bolshevism, Talmudism, Zoharism, Lurianic Cabalism, Zionism, Atheism, Deism, Satanism, Communism, Capitalism, whatever, they want to define themselves as or with).

          https://mauricepinayblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/the-crucifixion-narrative-for-goys-vs-the-crucifixion-narrative-which-the-rabbis-maintain-amongst-themselves/

          ^ ^ ^ The Crucifixion Narrative for Goys vs. the Crucifixion Narrative Which the Rabbis Maintain Amongst Themselves John 7:

          After this Jesus went about in Galilee; he would not go about in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him.

          Yet for fear of the Jews [Judahites] no one spoke openly of him.

          John 10:

          The Jews [Judahites] took up stones again to stone him.

          John 11, John 18, John 38, John 20, Acts 9 , Acts 23, etc.

          Just know to not mix up modern Jews with biblical Judahites as a geneological race but rather as non-semitic converts.

          Modern day Jew are not legitimate Hebrew, Israelite, or Judahite. They are all descended from the Edomites conquered, converted, and integrated into Judaea in 125 BC by John Hyrcanus, a rabbinic who came from teh Caspian sea region. They became from that point on known as Judaeans. Hence, modern Jews are Edomites, Cannanites and Khazars.

          https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/076/831/361/original/77f95c8d522cba70.jpg JPG

          https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/076/831/465/original/872f2f46b22dd159.jpg JPG

          https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/076/831/563/original/1f4fd3e1f7e50221.jpg JPG

          https://aryanisrael.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/who-are-the-jews/

          http://esau.today/esau-is-edom/

          http://esau.today/origin-of-the-word-jew/

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Thanks, Jesus. My readings on the historical Jesus did not include any of this, and I am sorry that I've not already appropriately digested your earlier comments or those above. I find them very interesting. I've read Bart Ehrman's work and several other sources. There are also Josephus scholars who would see Jesus as Jewish, but by your definition it seems you might also argue with Josephus scholars about his identity (which was also Roman). In support of some of your arguments, read also Rudolf Bultmann's 'Jesus Christ and Mythology', though this too is controversial. Although we do not agree on all of the points above, I will want to read more about a number of the other comments you've made, and will respond again in this thread, hopefully within a day or two.

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          Hello again, Jesus,

          As mentioned earlier, much of this isn't part of my reading list (yet), so I sent your questions to a colleague (who is not on Saidit or Reddit or social media). He's allowed me to post his comment verbatim, because I am not sure how best to paraphrase it. Not sure if this matters, but he's a fellow Protestant and a scholar of both testaments, the historical Jesus, Qur'an, and other religious and hisotrical texts. He merely resonded to this rather quickly, rather than with the usual academic argumetns and footnotes &c. I hope it adds to the ongoing discussion in recent months:

          Was Jesus a Jew? Well, that all depends on how you define the term Jew. I'd say yes, the first century itinerate apocalyptic prophet from Galilee was - and perhaps up there somewhere in the ether still is - a Jew. Jesus kept a kosher diet, his homies were Jewish, he identified with the Essenes, but didn't withdrawal from the world, he sparred with the Pharisees, but also like them revered the Torah and the Prophets, he honored the Sabbath, prayed the Psalms, people called him rabbi, his parables were thoroughly Jewish, hell, Jesus even dressed like an uppity Jew donning those fringes, and last but not least, it was Yahweh alone baby and none of that pagan henotheism crap, it was full throttle monotheism!

          But seriously, I do get what that one saidit dude is implying. The Pharisaic sect practiced in Jesus' time was a religion that the ethnoreligious group that would come to be known as "the Jews" hitched their wagon to many many centuries later. Also, since Jesus rejected the Pharisees, he was involved in a different religious project. The old feud among the sects hypothesis. It's an idea that can be further complicated - and perhaps made problematic - with a plunge into the etymology of the term Jew and what it means in Hebrew and biblical Greek.

          I also enjoyed the spirited squabble about modern Jews not being a pure ethnoreligious group, but rather coalesced from a conglomeration of disparate folks: Edomites, Canaanites,Hebrews, Israelites, Khazars, etc. - and so, the point being- have no historical or textual claim to territory in the Levant (the Promised Land). The idea being that you can't load a hodgepodge of various groups and ethnicities into a pastry bag and miraculously pinch out a singularity of collective identity. (I think one of the best analyses on this issue - which rejects the claim in the above opinion- is the chapter on Ancient Israel in Robert Bellah's book 'Religion in Human Evolution'.)

          But of course you can create the appearance of that singularity with origin myths. For example, beginning in the 7th and 8th centuries AD early Islamic scholars began fabricating origin stories about pre-Islamic Arabs to supplant pre-Arabic memories. The intent of this particular historical revisionism was to establish a bonafide Arab identity stretching into the deep past - ergo, the obsession with gargantuan family trees extending back to the biblical patriarchs, etc - in fact, an established Arab identity in the Levant and the Arabian Peninsula was spawned by the growth of Islam. The movers and shakers were thinking, "yikes, this Islam thing is growing exponentially fellas, we need an Arab origin myth pronto!"

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Was Jesus a Jew? Well, that all depends on how you define the term Jew.

          Modern Jews have no resemblance or connections to Yeshua, period. Jesus did not practice or preach from the Halakha, Zohar, Lurianic Cabala, Kings Torah or Talmud, which states that Jesus is rotting in excrement and is the bastard child of a whore. Jesus was first the son of God, born among Judahite Hebrews and Galileans but whose spirit was above these worldly identities.

          I'd say yes, the first century itinerate apocalyptic prophet from Galilee was - and perhaps up there somewhere in the ether still is - a Jew.

          Nope. Jews didn't exist in biblical times. I'm glad some people can time travel definitions and modern practices to fit square blocks into circle slots but it doesn't make it true. The word Jew is an appellation. Rabbinism is simply a mass conversion and intermarriage among different peoples practicing the anti-Christ naturalist ways of the rabbis who rejected Him. The religion of 'Judaism' ie., rabbinism, is simply the practice of a modern form of Pharisaism of converted persons with various added anti-Christ books written be supremacist rabbis throughout the middle ages.

          Jesus kept a kosher diet, his homies were Jewish, he identified with the Essenes, but didn't withdrawal from the world, he sparred with the Pharisees, but also like them revered the Torah and the Prophets, he honored the Sabbath, prayed the Psalms, people called him rabbi,...

          No he did not. He did not eat Kosher. Whoever invited him into their home, he would eat what they would give him, sitting lowly and humbly. The Apostles and his disciples did the same. The Kosher diet is a scam meant to isolate Jews from 'lesser' non-Jews, and Kosher slaughter is obscene and a ridiculous practice of tradition that Yeshua did not care to practice for he was the son of God, who did the will of the father. Jesus was perfect and despised the traditions of the Pharisees, which he sought via the will of God to end by making Himself a living sacrifice for our sins. The old covenant is made obsolete and withers away!

          ...his parables were thoroughly Jewish, hell, Jesus even dressed like an uppity Jew donning those fringes, and last but not least, it was Yahweh alone baby and none of that pagan henotheism crap, it was full throttle monotheism!

          Jesus was not a Jew, did not practice the Talmud or the stupid traditional laws that Jews practice today, nor was he donning fringes like an uppity Jew. He was a poor carpenter that came in lowly to set Judahite Hebrews and Israelites and later the rest of the world on course with God thru his sacrifice. In this way a growing movement of Judahite Hebrews, who later denied their worldly identities, Romans, Greeks, etc., came to know and follow His way. The one true God for the Pharisees was a murderer from the very beginning. Zealots who had killed innocent people for land and booty. Who killed the prophets. Jesus tried to set the record straight. Hence, why he chose a Zealot and Roman tax collector as his apostles, among others, who denied their own worldly will, their flesh, their desires, for faith in God. Through the will of God Jesus became an everliving sacrifice for our sins, to follow and preach His gospel to the lowly and downtrodden as well as expose the principalities of darkness.

          So, no, Jesus had no ethnic relationship, not a racial relationship with counterfeit Israel or modern Jews. God tells us to debounce meaningless genealogies!

          But seriously, I do get what that one saidit dude is implying. The Pharisaic sect practiced in Jesus' time was a religion that the ethnoreligious group that would come to be known as "the Jews" hitched their wagon to many many centuries later.

          Yes, but the Pharisees were Judahite Hebrews that are long gone. Some of their practices were certainly similar to Rabbinism today ... the Sadducees, practiced what could parallel dialectical materialism on the other hand. Nevertheless, the Jew appellation today as a British Israelist catch phrase for empire building and colony/commercialization projects, as the Zionist Jewish ethnostate is certainly such a state today, has nothing to do with Biblical Hebrewism. Jews have no relationship with Israel today. Most are not semitic and this does not matter to me either way because Yeshua denied the Zealotry and lies of those who rule this world who are taking orders, not from God, but from Satan. All one can prove, in the eyes of God, is that all those who practice Talmudism/rabbinism are simply converts to a new form of anti-Christ Pharisaism. Israel is spiritual. It is faith in God through Jesus Christ. A circumcised heart!

          Also, since Jesus rejected the Pharisees, he was involved in a different religious project.

          Nope, he rejected worldly traditions and was the Son of God. Perfect and involved only in Gods commands to be crucified and be born again as a sacrifice for our sins. We all must come to terms with Christ and follow His way.

          The old feud among the sects hypothesis.

          Worldly thinking.

          It's an idea that can be further complicated - and perhaps made problematic - with a plunge into the etymology of the term Jew and what it means in Hebrew and biblical Greek.

          Things I don't care about. It doesn't matter to me. The passing of time proves that genealogies, as God made clear, are a waste of time and only meant to distract. 'Jews' (15th century appellation) so-called ancient homeland is merely a Zionist scam to commercialize a land where natives have been living their for thousands of years. No different to what the German Templars did to Jaffa but failed, no different to what Anglicans did to Palestine but failed, no different to what the USSR or US inc., did or is doing to natives in Israel llc today. It is a colonization, settler commercialization project.

          I also enjoyed the spirited squabble about modern Jews not being a pure ethnoreligious group, but rather coalesced from a conglomeration of disparate folks: Edomites, Canaanites,Hebrews, Israelites, Khazars, etc. - and so, the point being- have no historical or textual claim to territory in the Levant (the Promised Land).

          They don't. Nobody does. If the Romans at one time owned almost the entirety of what is now called the United Kingdom, does the Vatican have the right to reconquer? No. But they could. This is where I find a minority of secular ethnonationalist non-religious Jews (Sephardi/Ashkenazi culture bros) to be especially cunning. Arguing with them about genetics, racial or ethnic land rights, it always ends with them claiming that "might is right," and all empires/people who are strong will impose their might over the weak and win. "This is history." This is where I know I won the moral side of the debate but it does not matter to them. They are merely espousing the naturalist tolerance of being intolerant because of some ancient land promise, that was never promised by God for them to take by the sword and bomb nor was it ever theirs in the first place. And again, if they can't win their opposition with that stupid argument they resort to "might is right." I just watched a Palestinian, or native living on her property hold to the grave her child because thugs wanted to tear down her house and grave for a garden for settlers.

          The idea being that you can't load a hodgepodge of various groups and ethnicities into a pastry bag and miraculously pinch out a singularity of collective identity.

          Yet they do just that. It's like a beefed up Roman collective identity to keep their ethno-company colony afloat, which is basically a giant welfare state that is the largest exporter of weapons, more so than the US, based on % of GDP.

          (I think one of the best analyses on this issue - which rejects the claim in the above opinion- is the chapter on Ancient Israel in Robert Bellah's book 'Religion in Human Evolution'.)

          Have not read this book.

          But of course you can create the appearance of that singularity with origin myths. For example, beginning in the 6th and 7th centuries AD early Islamic scholars began fabricating origin stories about pre-Islamic Arabs to supplant pre-Arabic memories.

          While Islam venerates Christ, Mohammad was a pedophile and preached violence, whereas Jesus did the very opposite. The Pharisees and Rabbinism preach an eye for an eye. This is precisely why verses in the Talmud, Kings Torah and spoken language by rabbis often denigrate and dehumanize non-Jews.

          The intent of this particular historical revisionism was to establish a bonafide Arab identity stretching into the deep past - ergo, the obsession with gargantuan family trees extending back to the biblical patriarchs, etc - in fact, an established Arab identity in the Levant and the Arabian Peninsula was spawned by the growth of Islam. The movers and shakers were thinking, "yikes, this Islam thing is growing exponentially fellas, we need an Arab origin myth pronto!"

          We could say the same thing about Thulists or any other religion or philosophy if we wanted to. But my faith won't break from Christ. I've read most of the Talmud, Zohar, Kings Torah, all the Old and New Testament, the Quran, and only Jesus Christ has brought me closer to God. His teachings are from God.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          If Jesus were not descended from Abraham and/or Adam, his purpose on Earth would not have fit the prophesy; he would not have been the appropriate Saviour: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          And yet neither Abraham nor Adam were Jews. Judahite Hebrews WERE NOT JEWS. What don't you understand. Talmudic, Zohar, Cabalistic Jews, a term that is a 16th century apellation has no connection to Jesus. Other than converts practicing what Jesus hated.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

          I see your alts and shill accounts.

          [–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          You are quite delusional. I have only 1 account. Have you had a mental health checkup recently?

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Great debunking. I gave you my answers.

          [–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          Answer me. Is the Earth flat? Did dinosaurs roam with people 6000 years ago?

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Blocked. Strawman.

          [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          You didn't block me you homo.

          [–]neomarxist_bullshit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          they should wear a yellow star or something

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Works for Poal :D

          [–]neomarxist_bullshit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          who's Poal

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

          some other reddit site. they mark certain users as jews.

          [–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          ah lol

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          To be fair, most non-Jewish Republicans are Zionists who want to give trillions of dollars to Israel because Pat Robertson said there'd be a natural disaster if we didn't (which sounds like satire, but he really did say that, LMAO).

          [–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          The EFF do good work. More power to them.

          [–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

          Jillian C. York is a communist you fucking useful idiots.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          better than a Communist Jew or Zionist or Ziocapitalist.

          [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          He's that too. Like you are.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          I'm a tiller of soil and lover of Christ. Communism is an ism, ie., a corporation, as also isms have always been.

          [–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          You are a pagan satanist scum.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I love Jesus. You're a Zionist Jew. You reject Christ. God bless.

          [–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Palestinians are historically violent. What is it you don't get about that?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          do they need to order stuff on ebay delivered to their huts

          [–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          doesn't the region have an unusually high percentage of terrorists?

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Because the ADL MASONIC supremacist league.