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[–]dissidentrhetoric 26 insightful - 5 fun26 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Go woke go broke

[–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If only this were true. The sad truth is that many woke corporations are doing just fine. Boycotts don't work and their power is entrenched. In this case, yes a woke company is going broke, but they're losing market share to Google, a larger woke company. If we had a free market where pro-white and anti-woke companies were allowed to operate like anti-white, woke ones the free market may be able to solve the problem, but we don't so it can't.

[–]dissidentrhetoric 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Woke has infiltrated successful companies, they are not successful because they are woke. They were successful before woke infiltrated the business services departments. Very defeatist attitude that you have.

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not trying to be defeatist! I just think we need to take decisive action, not simply hope that the problem will go away on its own because I think there's a good chance it won't.

[–]m68k 23 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

They need to stop replacing features with shit. And stop adding shit no one in their right mind would ask for.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

aint that the truth. its making the simple shit a ordeal that really drives people away

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

You guys don't even want covid updates from the mothership when you open your browser. How dare you!

[–]m68k 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'm still waiting for Firefox to tell me who to vote for. :3

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also if they stopped removing functionality and telling users it's an improvement that would be great

[–]Chipit 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The problem is the Mozilla Foundation. Firefox is just one of their projects, and not even the most important one. At this point it's an unwanted chore. The Mozilla Foundation gets shitloads of money and has tons of activities to do, why should they bother with some web browser project? It'll be spun off at some point I'm sure.

[–]flugegeheimen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Most of these "shitloads of money" is a handout from Google for using their search in Firefox as a default. As soon as Firefox joins Netscape Navigator at the graveyard, Mozilla will be dead.

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That's not true in the slightest. The Mozilla Foundation has substantial NGO support and Firefox is now a redheaded stepchild. They'd love to be rid of it and go about their work that has nothing to do with web browsers.

[–]flugegeheimen 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit which lives off donations (a few millions per year) and does nothing basically.

Mozilla Corporation is a commercial company making Firefox and receiving $400-$450 millions from Google per year. Search deal handouts have always been (and always will be) the majority of Mozilla's budget.

[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To quote their 2018 financial report (the most recently released):

Mozilla’s primary source of revenue is royalty income from contracts with various search engine and information providers. Revenue from these contracts is determined by the search and information providers based upon end user activity or as contractually agreed to. Mozilla records revenue on the accrual basis of accounting based upon the amounts received. - https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-fdn-2018-short-form-final-0926.pdf

While some may be coming from Yandex and Baidu, it's well established that Google is by far the biggest of the 'search and information providers'. Google pulling their money would obliterate the Mozilla Foundation. Fortunately for them that's unlikely to happen so long as keeping Firefox alive helps allay antitrust concerns. Certainly, absent antitrust concerns, Google doesn't have a strong business argument for paying to be the default search in browsers with such a tiny share of the market.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

So what are people using if not Firefox? Surely not Explorer!

[–]SerpensInferna 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Chrome, and I recently made the switch to Brave. Mostly I like it, haven't really had any issues with it.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Brave and Vivaldi are good, and I hear Waterfox. I miss Firefox v56. I look forward to Libre Browser and Libre Wolf.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

[–]NiceDickBro 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Fuck me. Are their any browsers left that aren’t completely fucked?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

K-Meleon browser + some others mentioned on those two links I have posted.

[–]One_Jack_Move 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What is your thought about using raw Chromium? Is that possible for a novice like myself?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Againstniggers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Chromium

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Very helpful!

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am glad it helped you.

[–]Spaceplone 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i made the mistake of clicking some of the links around whats wrong with pale moon. holy frick moonchild and tobin have become even more retarded in the past 5 years.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I use Brave too and I'm mostly very happy with it. It's blocked 197k ads and trackers according to it. It runs on Chrome's engine I believe. I still have to pair it with Blockada, which is a really neat mobile based ad-blocker that acts like a virtual VPN to skip loading ads. It claims to have blocked 2.8 million ads for me so far.

[–]ISaidWhatISaid 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Edge. No one wants to admit it though because they're embarassed to admit they prefer to use a Microsoft product.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol.. as if microsoft doesn't ALWAYS steal your data.

you funny.

[–]Jesus-Christ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I personally wouldn't use microsoft products for the sake of privacy but I remember plenty of people speaking in light of Bing when it came to porn. So it can't be all bad.

[–]asterias 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

85% sounds too much, what do these people use now? Possibly Brave?

[–]Drewski 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Not good, as Firefox and Firefox based browsers are the only real alternative to Chrome and Chromium based browsers. I have ungoogled-chromium but I really would not like to switch from Firefox.

[–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Brave and Vivaldi are good, and I hear Waterfox. I miss Firefox v56. I look forward to Libre Browser and Libre Wolf.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Brave is a Chromium browser though.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pale Moon

[–]Spaceplone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no. just no.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Seems logical. Get as much money out as you can before the company collapses.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

how do they make money, a free app, this says thru their search engine but I didn't know they had one. I'm on firefox now, go to homepage and it has a google search engine.

[–]ISaidWhatISaid 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Buggy PoS, I am glad people are ditching it.