TIL Steve Jobs died of an easily treatable form of pancreatic cancer because he though eating a fruit only diet would cure him

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[–]naples 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You forgot the part where he didn't bathe, the part where he refused to wear shoes in the office and the part where he refused to support his daughter and denounced his baby-mamma.

[–]OrionBlastar 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He named the Apple Lisa after his daughter. Other than that he was a deadbeat dad.

[–]Alan_Crowe 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

"treat" or "cure"? I vaguely remembered that survival times for pancreatic cancer were around 5 years, even with the best care.

Just doing a search for "Whipple procedure" (I remembered the name of the surgery :) gets links to descriptions of the operation. I needed to change my search term to "survival time after whipple procedure" before I found a link

Considering this, what is the average life expectancy after a Whipple procedure?

Without surgery, average life expectancy after diagnosis is about one year. Following surgery, with careful monitoring and follow-up, life expectancy may exceed two years.

Whoops! Be Steve Jobs, super rich master of the universal. Get pancreatic cancer. Get reminded of Bible verse

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Chance happeneth! Fuck that, lose mind :-(

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Steve Jobs had a more treatable form than typical.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pancreatic-cancer-type-jobs/

Jobs had a rare form of the cancer, known as neuroendocrine cancer, which grows more slowly and is easier to treat, explains Leonard Saltz, acting chief of the gastrointestinal oncology service at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. "Survival for many years or even decades with endocrine cancer is not surprising." For that type, the sort that Jobs had, "survival is measured in years, as opposed to pancreatic cancer, which is measured in months."

https://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/neuroendocrine-tumor-pancreas/statistics

The survival rate depends on a variety of factors, including whether the tumor can be removed using surgery. The 5-year survival rate for people with a pancreas NET that has not spread to other parts of the body from where it started is 93%. If the tumor has spread to nearby tissue or the regional lymph nodes, the 5-year survival rate is 77%. If the tumor has spread to distant areas of the body, the survival rate is 25%.

But really, he didn't throw away his life on crazy treatments, he maybe lost a few years he could have had, with an unknown quality of life from treatments.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I know the cure for cancer.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What is the cure?

If a man came up to you dying of cancer, would you help him? Or, ask for thousands of dollars?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I do and will keep on asking for thousands of dollars.

Reason: I am myself dying, not of cancer, but of poisoning, and have not been able to work a single day for the last 12 years. The only thing I have of value is this knowledge. I acquired this knowledge through intense study, and have demonstrated its factual nature through experimentation. An obvious question is: why should I not?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don't have a clear answer, because I do not know the nature of the cure.

I just keep thinking about the old parables of the farmer with more seed for next year's yield, and his neighbors experience a drought or flood and so have none. He could help them, or hinder them, all due to his better fortune and his cleverness. He could do both. I say that asking for thousands of dollars in return for a much-needed treatment is doing both. You offer the cure, yet are seemingly willing to leave out the poor. Just my two cents as a brief user seeking silver.

Questions: would you have any cure-seeker sign an NDA (or somesuch) or is the cure patented? Is the cure related to the mental control of microbiology, such as the control of electrons and free radicals, therefore unable to be patented?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The cure used to be patented by Big Pharma but the patent has expired, making it easily available.

And yet, you have the satanic cults and their agents such as Angelina Jolie getting her boobs chopped off because "she was likely to get breast cancer" in order to subliminally reinforce the idea that cancer is this great incurable threat to all.

Who else has noticed that the actual elites never seem to suffer from these ailments though...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have noticed that, but I thought they were just getting special blood infusions and high-end transplants.

If it was once patented, then it is something that can be made by an individual if they have the right supplies? Or, is it something still sold on shelves but not marketed for it's proper use? Can't they simply re-patent?

Have you ever heard of Paul Stamets, the mycologist? He said he treated his mother who had breast cancer with a mushroom (to my knowledge, one he wouldn't name) and it has completely disappeared.

But, they can't patent a plant that grows naturally, can they? You must mean something else.

I've also heard that free radicals cause cancer. Is this cure something that affects electrons and their cancerous breakaways?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not saying any more.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll keep all this in mind if I ever get cancer. Would you accept silver as payment?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Also, about leaving out the poor: I told my father and my sister that I have the cure. They didn't believe me. My sister in law got pancreatic cancer. I don't talk to my brother, but they certainly could have told him I said that. I even told my father, I have the cure, they could ask me for it. I wouldn't let her suffer for no reason.

She recently died from it. I don't think they told him, or if they did, he didn't believe it, which is doubtful. We aren't on speaking terms because he understands my mind dwarfs his to an unimaginable degree. So if he'd been told, he might have asked, to save his wife. But he did not. Why? Because if they realize I am being truthful, then they can't discount me as a weirdo anymore.

And they want to do that. People would go to any length to save their pride, even sacrificing their loved ones. What's the link with poor people you ask?

Even poor people can find say $2,000. Them and their loved ones together can scrape that much together. No problem.

No matter how you slice it, the money isn't really an issue. There are other issues that are a much greater obstacle.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's a story that might make some sad. They are foolish for not trusting their family member.

Especially when the doctors have nothing better. Might as well trust your brother than some faceless goon of GovCorp, even if you think he is a loon.

I don't think you are a loon though.

Do you know where I might purchase some silver?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Depends which country you're in. In the USA, I like goldsilver.com and in Canada I like silvergoldbull.ca

I like 1oz rounds, they are small enough to be easily spent, and don't carry the "stigma" of a face value, which coins are saddled with. Nothing worse than saying this coin has $100 worth of silver in it, but the denomination reads $5.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I appreciate these answers. Thank you.

[–]yabbit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just ignore it and it goes away docs are gouging us with this chemo shit

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In many cases, such as myself, the cause of the cancers is difficult to identify and eliminate. I am gravely poisoned by 5 major toxins, and they cause cancer. In my case at least, I could not "ignore it and it goes away" since the cause remains. I am taking measures against these poisons and hope to have their levels reduced markedly in two years' time and return to health in 5 years, but to ignore the cancers would be suicidal.

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The irony is that cancers thrive on sugar. Fasting has been shown to help fight cancer but you need to sustain yourself on fats.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Truth.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Carnivore is the key to health.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I did a lean meat heavy diet for a year, I was pain free for a while, it was nice. Eating meat all the time gets difficult though, both financially, especially now, and also because of the lack of variety.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. However, carnivores typically eat fatty meats. Still the same issue though.

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I greatly reduced my sugar and wheat and rely a lot more heavily on eggs and non-canned vegetables than before (and about the same amount of meat) and yeah, feeling a hell of a lot better these days.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it may be a short term improvement because the benefits seem to plateu at best. I think it might be a case of chronic harm that is done by junk food, glyohosate contamination, processing and preservative additives all building up to cause bad health and the carnivore diet allows you to cleanse your body and repair.

But once that is done you don't see more benefits and the lack in diversity of diet starts to take it's own toll.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've found the "eat fewer things from boxes and cans" approach to be an easy one for my lazy ass.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found the "drink a shit load of water before every meal and throw out the leftovers" to be effective.

[–]yabbit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gives me brutal protein farts

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nonsense. Once your digestive system has adapted, there are no farts anymore.

[–]yabbit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know man I ate six eggs a day for a year and I was turning classrooms into gas chambers

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Retard.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He was a stupid asshole. That is all.

[–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You forgot the part where he had AIDS and hid it with the cancer hippy treatment bullshit

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because you're a genius in some respects, that doesn't automatically mean you have common sense.