TIL the founder of the Chinese Communist Party, Mao Zedong, was responsible for the deaths of over 65 million people, making him the most prolific killer of the 20th century.

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[–]sodomytron 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

sorry i don't spoon feed 30 years of search engines on

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you don't want to provide any proof of anything, I don't know why you want to make this one of your hobbies, but to each his own.

The one thing you highlighted was me saying Germany declared war on the U.S. So you do not think Germany declared war on the U.S.? There is recorded evidence of Hitler's speech. We would have focused all our energy on Japan if Hitler hadn't declared war. Churchill himself was glad Hitler did, because the U.S. might have stopped supplying as much to the U.K. (that's in the Wikipedia article above).

If we fought Japan for several years, perhaps Germany would have won one of the two fronts. In either case, they would probably be able to shift into a better defensive stance. I think the U.S. public could then have been convinced it was not worth it. . .

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The US was waging an undeclared war against Germany in the Atlantic. US ships followed German merchant ships from Mexico, broadcasting their position to the British navy. My own grandfather was in the Neutrality Patrol in the Atlantic, where they attacked German naval vessels. The best-known incident was that of the Reuben James, where the US Navy ship positioned itself between the location of a known wolf pack and a convoy packed with war materiel headed for Britain. USS Kearny dropped depth charges on German U-boats while at peace. President Roosevelt announced his infamous "shoot-on-sight" order: that German U-boat "very presence in any waters which America deems vital to its defense constitutes an attack. In the waters which we deem necessary for our defense, American naval vessels and American planes will no longer wait until Axis submarines lurking under the water, or Axis raiders on the surface of the sea, strike their deadly blow—first."

What defense? We were chilling on our side of the Atlantic, why's our defense necessary in the middle of the ocean? And FDR just said their mere presence is grounds to open fire.

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure. I'll agree with all of those things were happening. My point is still that by Hitler declaring War, FDR finally got what he wanted: the ability to openly prosecute a full war against Germany.

In the near future, we'll be doing Deep Fakes of leaders calling us out to start our wars. But that wasn't the case here.