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[–]theFriendlyDoomer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

But I'm not German. . . It's not my country.

I'm American and Nazi Germany declared war on my country after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

[–]sodomytron 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor

your history channel education makes americans look bad. you have a single dimensional, official narrative take on historical events

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

That's a just a bunch of name calling. I'm not stupid on purpose and willing to learn if you have the time (and if you don't have the time it's fine -- but in that case, why start the conversation?).

But random internet stranger (that's you) saying something without any proof (which you're not offering) just isn't going to teach me anything.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well, I didn't believe it either until I started looking into it. I was shocked what I found.

FDR goaded the Japanese into attacking. He cut off their steel supply, which largely came from American scrap. Then he cut off their oil supply, which came from the Dutch East Indies. He boxed them into a corner without any way out. He empowered the "hate everyone" militarists and pulled the rug from out under the peace faction. If you have the time for it, this is a fantastic video on Japanese factional politics 1919-1945. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE_iNUXhrfw

Admiral J.O. Richardson: The admiral said he was going to tell a story that the lieutenant could regard as a parable. "Assume", Richardson said, "you were the leader of the greatest nation in the world, and assume that you saw, in another hemisphere, the development of a power which you regarded, and with reasonable support, as a total threat to Western civilization as you knew it. Supposing, however, for various reasons, your conception of the danger was not shared by your constituents, your own people. And you saw the total destruction of western civilization in the hands of this adversary, and your detected in your own people, at the time, on the basis of everything they knew, a lack of appreciation of the problem. Assume you saw that the only salvation of Western civilization was to repel this particular power but that required you to enter a foreign war for which your people were not psychologically or militarily prepared. Assume that what was needed to galvanize your own people for a unified approach towards this basic danger to civilization was an incident in which your posture was clearly of passive non-aggression, and apparent unpreparedness; and the incident in question was a direct act of aggression which had no excuse or justification. Assume that you saw this potentiality developing on the horizon and it was the solution to the dilemma, as you saw it, of saving civilization and galvanizing your own people. It is conceivable, is it not, that you might be less disposed to create a situation in which there might be no doubt as to who struck the first blow"...."It's a fable. You just think about that fable as you study some of this material. And, it's conceivable that it might have some enlightening factors."

That about explains the United States allowing the Japanese to attack her. I recommend the book Infamy, written by a credible historian. He went and read every single piece of correspondence written about the investigation afterwards and concludes, yes the commanders of Pearl Harbor were hung out to dry and blamed so that FDR could have his war.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1656121.Infamy

[–]sodomytron 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

his war

what's remarkable is timely extended commentary shows that it was commonly known FDR was wanting war. i grew up a bit when i realized every generation has ppl who can see what's going on and they're usually ignored by dummies like u/theFriendlyDoomer. the reason i don't spoon feed them anymore (bless your heart) is they don't know not because they haven't found, but because they don't look. and they don't look because they actually don't care. and so doing all of their work to teach them is end in the end pointless. but others are lurking, so good on you for their sake

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah well you do a really shitty job of explaining your point of view, and actually are negative value, in that your shittiness drives people away. Maybe they could be convinced, but when you jump directly to the "ur stupid and it's pointless" part, that's counter-productive. Have you considered that your lack of success is directly due to your extremely poor persuasion skills?

[–]sodomytron 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

0 care. fire only

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, well you should care. If you don't care about persuading people to your point of view, you're a damned fool. Why even bother posting at that point? Why do you even exist but to cause problems? This is where the term “useless eaters” comes from and why the elites want most of us dead in the first place.

[–]sodomytron 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

ya it's my fault, not the ppl who actually cause the problems that expect everyone else to do their work for them. sorry but i don't accept that it's my responsibility to carry trash on my back. i handle my business, other ppl should handle theirs. fuck em

imagine thinking you can bail the ocean

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Do you realize talking to you is like talking to a wall? And that's pretty much how you treat everyone?

You know you're the problem, right?

[–]theFriendlyDoomer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I appreciate all of that. I'll try to check out the Toland book at some point.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And history repeats itself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_project#History

The result was the threat of a Super-301 (complete stop of import based on section 301 of the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988) against everything related to TRON, including products from the companies selling computers running TRON OS variants. This led to many companies dropping TRON in fear to lose the possibility to export to the United States.[14] According to a report from The Wall Street Journal, from the point of view of the United States trade officials in the 80s and early 90s, the TRON project was seen as a plot brought up by the Japanese bureaucrats to "control the world" and a potential threat to American dominance in computer technology.