So, can transgenders be superLGBS or not?

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Before the superstraight subreddit was banned there were people making posts like ''I'm trans. Can I be superstraight/gay/bi?'' and people replied that ''yes, you can be superLGBS just remember to respect other people perferences's too'' There were also people posting trans positivity posts in here.

Now that the subreddit is banned, I want to know if you all still think that way. I'm not trans but I think this one's stupid. Wasn't the super movement created to get away from dating trans people???

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[–]jet199 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

The vast majority of transwomen are supers.

They won't go out with no other transwomen, no way.

[–]loveSloane 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think it’s very hypocritical of them, but I think most trans people are super lgbs.

[–]Michael_frf 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hypocrisy abounds, but it's not wanting someone who is not trans while being trans that is the problem. If it was, it would also be hypocritical for anyone to be straight (even if not super).

The problem only comes when such people publicly denounce supersexuality while effectively practising it themselves. And it's quite possible for a cis person to engage in the same wrong.

[–]loveSloane 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is hypocritical for trans people to only want to date people who aren’t trans while pressuring us to be open to them. I’m not saying it’s a problem, it’s just hypocritical and should be an obvious red flag in their arguments. Publicly denouncing the “super” sexualities while being “super-“ themselves is the one of the best examples of hypocrisy I can think of.

I don’t really get how you think being straight would be hypocritical.

[–]Michael_frf 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

while pressuring us to be open to them

That's what I covered in my second paragraph. My point was that hypothetically, a person could be trans and accept the small dating pool it implies in a non-superphobic world. They wouldn't be pressuring other people to be open, and thus would be innocent of the hypocrisy.

How many such people exist (relative to the total trans population) is a question of fact I'm not sure of. It would be surprising and depressing if the answer was 0%.

In contrast, a cis person who denounces supersexuality as "hate", is not asexual, has not given any sort of exclusivity promise to a cis lover, and yet has never pleased a trans person would be more suspect than a boundary-respecting trans. I'd imagine there are a lot of those; the hostile response to super would otherwise be much smaller.

The "hypocrisy of straightness" would simply be that every straight person has a characteristic that utterly disqualifies them from being an acceptable date to themselves. Yet they hope their crush will like that characteristic. It's not really hypocrisy by itself --- it only becomes so if they question others' right to be homosexual or asexual.

[–]loveSloane 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I get what you were saying now

[–]1st_Class_Mail_Ally 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think they're Supers in the sense they also don't want to date transgender people lol. They'd prefer to be validated by dating a natural man or woman, depending on the sexuality they're simulating.

[–]loveSloane 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s what I’m saying. It’s hypocritical to try to pressure everyone else to date them when they don’t want to date each other. It’s like they recognize that there’s a difference, but it’s only okay for them to not consider trans people as sexual/romantic partners.

[–]TurtleFuzz 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think that trans people can be supers, but a transwoman attracted to women is not a "SuperLesbian" because he's not a woman. He can be a SuperStraight trans identified male, who presents as a female. No shame in that.