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[–]BEB[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Please check out autogynephiles (AGPs) who make up a huge portion of this new lot of transgender-identified males ("Transwomen")

Autogynephiles are mostly heterosexual, males, with intact male genitalia, who get a sexual kick out of dressing as women. They have forums all over the internet, including PEDDIT, where you can read their own words.

Autogynephiles often get turned on by humiliating women. They do things like take penis selfies in women's locker rooms and steal used tampons to stick up their anuses.

Since we can't tell which male in an autogynephile, which male has been castrated, etc., how can we tell which male should be allowed to use female safe spaces?

Also, according to the CDC, close to 20% of American women have been raped, and close to 44% have been sexually assaulted. Many women would have problems with any man, castrated or not, in a space where they're naked or otherwise vulnerable.

The bottom line is that women fought for safe spaces to protect ourselves and our children. Women and children are not human shields to men who wish to wear dresses, and we are not the ones attacking men in dresses.

The problem is male violence, so it's up to males to sort out their own issues and make other males, no matter how they're dressed, feel safe.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My initial response was going to be it is clearly visible, but with 70% of the population overweight or obese, I concede. Outside of these autogynephiles, it's arguably unsafe for post-op trans-women to use male facilities.

I'm pretty sure post-op surgery isn't equivalent to castration because they may reuse some of the skin. We agree on most points, but our agreement probably ends with whether or not a post-op male should be allowed in female spaces.

A leading question for anyone to answer:

  • Should a female (that is, a human with female reproductive structures) with XY chromosomes be allowed in female-only spaces?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So what are the statistics of XY chromosomed females that have female reproductive structures? Reproduction, in itself, implies necessary gametes to reproduce. A nuvagina isn't a reproductive structure, it's an inverted tube of flesh.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Greater than zero, but you still didn't answer the question posed.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've had relatively positive overall feelings about 2 transwomen posters here-- one of whom posts very well thought out videos, one of whom has a no-nonsense view on child abuse on any level. Were I to be able to personally evaluate them (in person) for a little while to confirm my views, I would possibly consider feeling comfortable with allowing them in the same restroom as my daughter, or using a shared-stall bathroom with them.

The thing is that women aren't allowed to vet TW first. We're just expected to see them as our own and embrace them, despite the incredibly high rates of sex abuse within the community, the blatant misogyny, and the rape threats. They're not thoroughly psychologically evaluated and vetted for a while before being allowed into spaces with physically vulnerable and weaker women and children, so we get the Yanivs of the community that make used tampon tea to get estrogen. They even allow convicted sex abusers that have been imprisoned to transition, then free them into women's prisons to rape and psychologically terrorize women that are trapped there. If they were actually put through a rigorous psychological evaluation to ensure that they're not a threat by a non-biased set of multiple and unrelated providers first, potentially even relinquishing internet privacy to make sure that their search history is clear of CP or abusive behavior, then possibly. That will never happen though.

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right. I only consider post-op trans individuals to really be "trans." The others are just men in dresses, women in suits.